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OpenStudy (anonymous):

can someone plz check my answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[(8+\sqrt{2})(4-3\sqrt{2})\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

choices: a.26-20sqrt2 b.26-28sqrt2 c.32-3sqrt2 d.32-23sqrt2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got d am i correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@terenzreignz

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Most unfortunately, no :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it is my last question can you help me through it please

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Sure.. do you use the FOIL method here? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Okay, then slowly but surely, use the foil method... in fact, to make it easier... replace the \(\sqrt 2\) with x for the time being... \[\Large (8+x)(4-3x)=\color{red}?\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i can do that give me one second to igure it out

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Take your time :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got: 32-20x-3x^2 is that correct

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Very good :) Now we sub back into \(\sqrt 2\) So it now becomes... \[\Large 32 - 20(\color{red}{\sqrt 2})-3(\color{red}{\sqrt 2})^2\] Care to simplify? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sure thing

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Just be careful :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Do you have your answer? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i just drew a blank and forgot how to do it

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

:) \[\Large (\sqrt 2)^2 = 2\] ie, the square and the square root just cancel out :) Does that help? ^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes it does thanks

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

So... just post your answer when you're done :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok will it be: 32-3sqrt2

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Terms do not simply disappear...

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

\[\Large 32 - 20({\sqrt 2})-3({\sqrt 2})^2\] Why don't we try that again? This time, in more vivid detail...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok sounds good

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Let's focus on this part right here... \[\Large 32 - 20({\sqrt 2})-\color{green}{3({\sqrt 2})^2}\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

What did I say about \[\Large (\sqrt2)^2=\color{red}?\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that the sqrt cancels and leaves you with 2

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

That's right :) Having said that, what becomes of this part: \[\Large 32 - 20({\sqrt 2})-3\boxed{({\sqrt 2})^2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it leave you with -3+2

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Oh, no... it *does* leave a 2, but not to be ADDED to the 3, but rather, to be MULTIPLIED to the 3. I don't see any addition there, do you? :P

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

\[\Large 32 - 20({\sqrt 2})-3({\color{green}2})\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Okay, so, do you have it from here?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think so

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Then... post your answer :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i am still thinking it is 32-23sqrt2 qhich is d

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which*

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Okay, then please show your steps :)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Did you combine \(\large -3(2) \)and \(\large -20\sqrt 2\) ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes thats what i did

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Well that's just plain prohibited :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh:)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

First rule of addition in algebra... only similar terms may be combined... and these two are not similar (in a sense) because 3(2) does not have \(\sqrt 2\)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

You don't combine \(-3x^2\) and \(-20x\) do you? :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

definetly not because x^2 is different from just x

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yes. In that same respect \[\Large (\sqrt 2 )^2\] is different from just \[\Large \sqrt 2\] Understood? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

It just so happened that \(\large (\sqrt 2)^2 = 2\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

correct

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Now, let's get back to that problem again... \[\Large 32 - 20({\sqrt 2})-{3{({ 2})}}\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

You may not be able to combine THESE terms... \[\Large 32\boxed{ - 20({\sqrt 2})-{3{({ 2})}}}\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

However, this bit here... \[\Large 32 - 20({\sqrt 2})-\color{blue}{3{({ 2})}}\] Is just 3 times 2... which is just...?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

6 but wont it be -6 since the 3 is a negative?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

yes -6 :) Okay, so that makes everything... \[\Large 32 - 20({\sqrt 2})\color{blue}{-6}\] so... care to simplify? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

dont i move the -6 overto the -20

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

What do you mean? :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

by adding 6 to both sides

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

There is no both sides because there is no = sign :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhhh:)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

I see all this \(\sqrt 2\) business is really confusing you... let's bring back that x to replace it... \[\Large 32 - 20x-6\] NOW how do you simplify this?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

put like terms together

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yes.. and... ? You get...?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i get 26

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

26? Or 26 - 20x? :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

26-20x

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Right... let's bring back the \(\sqrt 2\) for the last time, and put that x to rest :P \[\Large 26 - 20 \color{red}{\sqrt 2}\] And there you have it :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

26-20sqrt2?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thankou so much for you time i better understand this now :)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

There you go. Now I see you have a much easier time if you work with x instead of \(\sqrt 2\) Just remember that at this stage of your maths, your radicals behave more like variables than numbers... in that dissimilar terms may not be added etc... If you're confused, replace all the (same) radicals with x and proceed normally :) And when the smoke clears, bring back the radical, as I did :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i will do that i have a tomorrow and i will use that stragey

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Above all else, be VERY CAREFUL. Well, that's it for now, signing off :D -------------------------------------- Terence out

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