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OpenStudy (summersnow8):

PLEASE HELP: Two Masses, a Pulley, and an Inclined Plane Block 1, of mass m1 = 0.700kg , is connected over an ideal (massless and frictionless) pulley to block 2, of mass m2, as shown. For an angle of θ = 30.0∘ and a coefficient of kinetic friction between block 2 and the plane of μ = 0.200, an acceleration of magnitude a = 0.200m/s2 is observed for block 2. find the mass of block 2, m2:

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

I thought you would use this equation: \[\frac{ m _{1} }{ m _{2} }= \frac{ a+g \mu \cos (\theta) +g \sin (\theta) }{ g-a}\]

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

or....

OpenStudy (rane):

i would prefer to use the above equation

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

I tired it, it is not the right answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i would prefer writing eqns of motion for both blocks. For that ,i need to know the direction of acceleration of m2 whose magnitude is 0.2m/s2 (given). It has to be upwards because friction is acting downwards in the figure and friction and resultant acc always point in opposite direction.

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

okay, that makes sense

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Now ,we can write eqns of motion as follows. Noting that m2 is accelerated upwards the plane, therefore m1 will be accelerated down with same acceleration ,0.2m/s2. Forces on m1 are : T -upwards m1g- downwards Since acceleration, 0.2 of m1 is downwards ,so m1a = m1g-T where a =0.2m/s/s ................................(1) Forces on m2 are: T -upwards the plane m2*g*sin30 -down the plane f=\(\mu\)*m2*g*cos30 -down the plane resultant acc is up the plane and equal 0.2m/s/s, so m2a =T-m2*g*sin30-\(\mu\)*m2*g*cos30 ...........................(2) eqn 1 and 2 can be solved for 2 unknowns m2 and T

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

woah... now I am extremely confused.... what is the equation?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can u tell me the answer of this question so that i can see if what i did is correct.

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

I dont know what answer is.... i have an example one tho

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

Two Masses, a Pulley, and an Inclined Plane Block 1, of mass m_1 = 0.700kg , is connected over an ideal (massless and frictionless) pulley to block 2, of mass m_2, as shown. For an angle of theta = 30.0^\circ and a coefficient of kinetic friction between block 2 and the plane of mu = 0.250, an acceleration of magnitude a = 0.350m/s^2 is observed for block 2. Part A Find the mass of block 2, m_2. Express your answer numerically in kilograms. Hint 1. Draw a free-body diagram Which figure depicts the correct free-body diagrams for the blocks in this problem? Figure a Figure b Figure c The notation in the figures is as follows: T_vec is the tension in the string, n_vec is the normal force between block 2 and the surface of the incline, f_vec is the friction force, a_vec is the acceleration of the blocks, and g is the magnitude of the acceleration due to gravity. ANSWER: a b c A Hint 2. Apply Newton's 2nd law to block 2 in the direction parallel to the incline Which of the following relations expresses Newton's 2nd law for block 2 in the direction parallel to the incline? (Assume the positive direction is going up the incline.) Hint 1. Find the component of the weight of block 2 in the direction parallel to the incline Which of the following expressions is the component of the weight of block 2 in the direction parallel to the incline? (Assume the positive direction is going up the incline.) ANSWER: -m_2 g \sin(30^\circ) -m_2 g \cos(30^\circ) m_2 g \sin(30^\circ) m_2 g \cos(30^\circ) A Hint 2. Direction of the frictional force Recall that the frictional force always acts in the direction opposite to the direction of motion. ANSWER: m_2 a=T-f-m_2 g\cos(30^\circ) m_2 a=T-f-m_2 g\sin(30^\circ) m_2 a=T+f-m_2 g m_2 a=T-f+m_2 g\sin(30^\circ) m_2 a=T-f-m_2 g m_2 a=T-f+m_2 g\cos(30^\circ) B Hint 3. Find the tension Find the magnitude T of the tension in the string. Express your answer in newtons. Hint 1. Apply Newton's 2nd law to block 1 in the vertical direction Which of the following relations expresses Newton's 2nd law in the vertical direction for block 1? Take the positive direction to point downward. ANSWER: m_1 a =m_1 g+T m_1 a =T-m_1 g m_1 a =m_1 g-T m_1 a =m_1 g-2T m_1 a =m_1 g m_1 a = -T C ANSWER: T = 6.62 \rm N Hint 4. Find an expression for the friction force What is the magnitude f of the friction force acting on block 2? ANSWER: f=n/\mu f=\mu/n f=\mu n \vec{f}=\mu\vec{n} C Hint 5. Find the normal force By applying Newton's 2nd law to block 2 in the direction perpendicular to the incline determine the magnitude of the normal force n. Express your answer in terms of m_2. Hint 1. Find the component of the weight of block 2 in the direction perpendicular to the incline Which of the following expressions is the component of the weight of block 2 in the direction perpendicular to the incline? (Assume the positive direction is going upward.) ANSWER: -m_2 g \sin(30^\circ) -m_2 g \cos(30^\circ) m_2 g \sin(30^\circ) m_2 g \cos(30^\circ) B ANSWER: n = 8.50 m_2 ANSWER: m_2 = 0.897 \rm kg

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

did that help?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

When i solve eqn 1 and 2 in my solution above for the ratio of m1 and m2, i get the same answer that u posted in your second reply. And after plugging the values in that relation, i am getting m2~1kg

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

so 1 kg, is for which one? the first question i posted or the second? and what equation did u use to get that?

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

nvm, figured it out

OpenStudy (vincent-lyon.fr):

Apply N's 2nd law to mass 1: it will reveal the tension in the string. Then apply it to mass 2 knowing tension and acceleration. The only unknown will be mass m2.

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