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OpenStudy (anonymous):

What is 1^i?

hartnn (hartnn):

i think 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wolfram says 1 I think 1 However I have read somewhere that there could be infinite solutions or something...

hartnn (hartnn):

i don't think why 1^(any number, even complex) is not 1

hartnn (hartnn):

\(\huge 1^{a+ib}=1\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hmmmm okay thanks. Do you know about Euler's formula? The one where e^(ix)=cos(x)+isin(x)

hartnn (hartnn):

lets try let 1^i =a i log 1 = log a log a = 0, gives a=1 yes i know

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Does it have a domain restriction?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1 to the power of any value, either complex or real, is always 1.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@apple_pi is 'i' here referring to \(\bf \sqrt{-1}\) or is it a variable?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Domain restriction for Euler's formula i meant

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sqrt(-1)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No there is no domain restriction for 'x' in euler's formula.

hartnn (hartnn):

no domain restriction, because there's no restriction for values of x in sin x or cos x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's all real numbers. You should be able to deduce that just by looking at the formula.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok so then what's stopping me from saying: e^0=e^(2ipi) ln(both sides) Therefore 0=2ipi?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\bf e^{i(0)}=\cos(0)+isin(0) =1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@apple_pi is correct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wait, I'm correct?

hartnn (hartnn):

this is new to me, what made u write log 1 = 2pi k +Log 1 ??

hartnn (hartnn):

oh, from this? \(z=\exp(2\pi k+\operatorname{Log}z)\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@hartnn given a complex number \(z=re^{i\theta}\) we can take its logarithm \(\log z=\log r+\log e^{i\theta}=i\theta+\log r\) but observe \(z=re^{i\theta}=re^{i(\theta+2\pi k)}\) yes? hence \(\log z=i\theta+2\pi ik+\log r\) as well. hence the complex logarithm is not a function as it is multivalued

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@hartnn yeah I meant \(2\pi ki\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is common with complex functions; to make a complex logarithm function, we use a "branch cut" and limit ourselves to arguments say \(\theta\in[0,2\pi)\) -- this we call the principal complex logarithm \(\Log z\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it's the same principle we use when taking square roots; observe that a real number has two real square roots, \(\pm x\). it makes sense then that the square root is not a function since it's multivalued. to deal with this we employ a branch cut at \(x=0\) and choose the \(x>0\) half to be our principal square root \(\sqrt{x}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

even closer, consider the trigonometric functions. they do not have normal inverses in the sense they'd be multivalued since our function is not a bijection; this forces us to make a branch cut and limit ourselves to angles in say \((-\pi,\pi]\), for example.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@oldrin.bataku what am I correct about?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@apple_pi there are indeed infinite solutions \(z=\exp(2\pi k)\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Inifinite solutions to 1^i?

hartnn (hartnn):

you meant 2pi *i*k again ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well, solution is the wrong word -- but \(1^i\) is ambiguous. we define complex exponentiation to be \(z^w=\exp(\log z^w)=\exp(w\log z)=\exp(w(2\pi ki+\Log z))\). Here we have \(z=1\) hence \(\Log z=0\) and \(w=i\) so we get \(1^i=\exp(i(2\pi ki+0))=\exp(-2\pi k)\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@hartnn nah I kept making typos. it should be \(1^i=\exp(-2\pi k)\) or equivalently \(1^i=\exp(2\pi k)\) for any integer \(k\)

hartnn (hartnn):

ohh, okk

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@hartnn you're correct \(1\) is one of the possible results, as are \(e^{2\pi}\) and \(e^{-100\pi}\)

hartnn (hartnn):

yes, i could get that, thanks :)

OpenStudy (zarkon):

\[1^i=1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Zarkon ... read above please. You are only further confusing the asker.

OpenStudy (zarkon):

I'm well aware of the above (I have taught complex analysis) The answer depends on ones definition. Some definitions use the real valued log when the base is a positive real number and some definitions use what you have above. The OP should consult their book/instructor to see what definition is being used.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The real valued log? I'm guessing you mean the principal value of the logarithm.

OpenStudy (zarkon):

obviously. here is one definition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponentiation#Complex_exponents_with_positive_real_bases_2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, well vaguely referring to a 'real valued log' was "obviously" not clear.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that being said, that was an interesting link. thanks.

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