can i get some help with this question please find the center of mass of a triangle with points (5,8) (9,11) and (5,11)
Is this triangle is of uniform density, or there is a mass at each of the vertices?
uniform density
Join any vertex to the mid-point of the opposite side. The centre of mass is located at 2/3 of the distance from the vertex.
would that be all i need to do for this problem
Yes, but you will do it using analytic geometry.
im confused because that's not how I learned it in class
If you go through all the motions, you will end up with the result equivalent to: G((x1+x2+x3)/3, (y1+y2+y3)/3) where the points P1,P2,P3 have coordinates P1(x1,y1),P2(x2,y2),P3(x3,y3), and G is the centre of gravity.
How did you learn it in class?
for these type of problems my professor wanted us to use x bar and y bar
Can you tell me more?
Do you use calculus?
yes. this is a cal 2 problem
OK, there are different ways to do the same thing. You really are learning Calculus, so you need to do integration. What I gave you were known results.
Are you familiar with xBar = integral(x dA) / integral (dA) and yBar = integral(y dA) / integral(dA) ?
xbar = 1/A integral xf(x) dx
y bar = 1/A integral 1/2 [f(x)]^2 dx
So your f(x) represents the height of the figure at x, right?
These formulas reduce the double integral (dA) to a simple integral.
i believe so
can you first find the height of the figure in terms of x. We will call the three points A, B and C respectively.
Have you started by drawing the triangle on paper (or calculator)? A is the bottom vertex, B is the right vertex, and C is the top-left vertex.
yes i have
We will proceed as follows: 1. We note that the triangle has two sides parallel to the axes, AC // y-axis, BC // to x-axis. 2. We will find the function f(x) which represents the y-dimension of the triangle for x between 5 and 9 3. We will then proceed to do the integrations you suggested. Is this ok with you?
yes, this is okay with me.
Can you now start by finding f(x) representing the y-dimension of the triangle. We know that 5<= x <= 9. and f(5)=11-8=3, f(9)=0 It should be a linear function. Confirm the above information on your figure.
We know that the slope of f(x) is -3/4, since f(5)=3, f(9)=0. So f(x)=-(3/4)x+27/4 Do you agree?
Now you can proceed with the integrations used in your class to find xBar and yBar.
Except that the integral for yBar assumes that the base of the triangle is along the x-axis. You can still use the same formula, but the resulting yBar will be measured downwards from the side CB. You can use my formulae to check your results, namely xBar = (x1+x2+x3)/3 yBar = (y1+y2+y3)/3 Good luck.
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