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OpenStudy (anonymous):

If SqRt(i) = a + ib, find a and b.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sqrt{i}=a+ib\]

OpenStudy (ivettef365):

\(\sqrt{i}\) - ib = a

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it cant be that simple... there has to be something im missing here.

OpenStudy (ivettef365):

now find b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

solving a and b that way, is basic algebra, this unit is over complex numbers, i dont think it would be that easy

OpenStudy (anonymous):

anyone know what to do?

OpenStudy (ivettef365):

what about (\(\sqrt{i}\))^2 = (a + ib)^2

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

^^That would be my preferred method. Since \(\sqrt{i}^2=i\), this way would be fairly straightforward.

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

yes, but that only gives a trinomial equaling -1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay even if I squared both sides. \[i=a ^{2}-b ^{2}+2iab\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how does that help me

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

the one thing I can think of is, the real part may only go to 0 the imaginary part "bi" can then be simplified

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

By setting imaginary parts equal, and real parts equal, you now have two equations for two unknowns.\[a^2-b^2=0\]\[2ab=1\] (also, if you've learned about polar form, there is another method you could try)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I type it into WA and it tells me \[a=\sqrt[4]{-1}-ib=(\sin 45 + isin 45) - ib\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i honestly dont remember this to well, its been a good 12 years since i was in calc.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i know basics, but not properties or identities of it

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

Let's try using the polar notation method. Since \(i\) is a distance of 1 from the origin, and it lies on the vertical axis (which is at an angle of \(\pi/2\)), we can write\[i=\cos(\pi/2)+i\sin(\pi/2)=e^{i\pi/2}.\]Now, we can take the square root of \(e^{i\pi/2}\). \[\sqrt{e^{i\pi/2}}=\left(e^{i\pi/2}\right)^{1/2}=e^{i\pi/4}.\]Just convert back into the standard notation, and you've got it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay. but all you did was do the left side of the equation right... so e^ipi/4 = a + bi.... i so are you solving a, or what are u doing

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

You are solving for \(a\) and \(b\) now. \(e^{i\pi/4}\) defines a unique complex number, so it is possible to solve for \(a,b\).

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

Do you know how to convert back and forth between these two notations?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no i do not remember, im sure once you start though it will probably come back

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but im assuming its the sin 45 or something since thats what WA said

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cuz pi/4 is 45 degrees right

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

So the notation is just in the form \[\large re^{i\theta}\]where \(r\) is the distance from the origin, and \(\theta\) is the angle from the positive real axis. What I wrote up there, has \(r=1\) and \(\theta=\pi/4\). As it happens, \(\pi/4=45^{\circ}\) when you convert to degree.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay, so that is where the sin 45 + isin 45 comes from?

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

The other form, that's usually an intermediate step in switching between forms, is written as \[r(\cos(\theta)+i\sin(\theta))\]with \(r,\theta\) being the same as above. So we have \[\cos(\pi/4)+i\sin(\pi/4).\]These can easily be evaluated by inspection, WA, or any kind of calculator.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so its saying a = cos (pi/4) and b is sin(pi /4)

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

Exactly. And those can be evaluated to get a value.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

dont you think it would be better to leave it like that or to put it as the decimal .70711

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

I would put it as \(\sqrt2/2\).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh okay.. a=b=sq2/2... thank you very much.... would u be able to help me with one more real quick

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

If it's quick. I have about 5-10 minutes before I have to go.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ 1 }{ 2-i }=a+ib\]

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

You want to multiply by\[\frac{2+i}{2+i}\]This is equivalent to multiplying by 1, but it'll get rid of the imaginary numbers in the denominator.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay, so 2/5 + 1/5i then you convert to 2/5 + (1/5)e^ipi/2

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

Don't convert to anything with \(e\). Just leave it like \[2/5+i/5\]since that's the form you want it in.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhh, your right, so a is 2/5, and b is 1/5... fantastic. wish you didnt have to leave... thanks for the help.

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

You're welcome.

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