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OpenStudy (anonymous):

identities question to find values of x below

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\cos 4x=-\frac{ \sqrt{2} }{ 2 }\]

OpenStudy (psymon):

I would probably start with doing a sum of cosines and doing cos(2x + 2x) and see where that starts you off.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Psymon that would give me a decimal for my answer. I believe the question requires me to write in all radians without the use of a calculator. how would you take the cos(2) without a calculator?

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(\bf cos (4x)=-\cfrac{ \sqrt{2} }{ 2 }\\ cos^{-1}(cos(4x))=cos^{-1}\left(-\cfrac{ \sqrt{2} }{ 2 }\right)\\ 4x = cos^{-1}\left(-\cfrac{ \sqrt{2} }{ 2 }\right)\)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(\bf 4x = cos^{-1}\left(-\cfrac{ \sqrt{2} }{ 2 }\right) \implies 4x = \text{some angle} \implies x = \cfrac{\text{some angle}}{4}\)

OpenStudy (psymon):

Yeah, he knows what he's doing more than I am, ignore me x_x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Psymon that's ok @jdoe0001 how can i solve the inverse of cosine without a calculator? The question requires me to use radians only

OpenStudy (psymon):

I see identities and thats where my mind goes. Depending on your calculator, putting in cos^(-1)sqrt2/2 will give you the radian answer. Otherwise it's unit circle knowledge. cos^(-1)sqrt2/2 is a clean match with 2 radian measures : )

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(\bf -\cfrac{ \sqrt{2} }{ 2 }\) is a pretty well known angle, it should be in your Unit Circle

OpenStudy (psymon):

Sounds good to me :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry, it got 3pi/16and 5pi/16

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

well, you have the correct "reference angle", but keep in mind that in this case cosine is negative, that means 2nd and 3rd quadrants

OpenStudy (psymon):

O.o For cosine?. That would mean that you started with 3pi/4 and 5pi/4 = 4x, but those are negative in those quadrants. The first answer you had was correct.

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

3pi/16and 5pi/16 :)

OpenStudy (psymon):

Oh, I thought it was positive sqrt2/2, didnt notice the negative x_x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea i didn't consider the negative for my first answer. I got @jdoe0001 's answer after i looked at the negative quadrants

OpenStudy (psymon):

Yeah, I just simply see the negative. I swear im horrible at reading math when its in typing O.o

OpenStudy (psymon):

*didnt see

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

hheehe, sneaky dash eludes at times too, since it's so small "-"

OpenStudy (psymon):

Exactly. But nah, otherwise you got the right answer, haha. Although Im surprised they wouldnt have you memorize the unit circle, morning.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Psymon and @jdoe0001 thank you so much! may i ask one more question?? it's been bugging me for at least 7 hours!

OpenStudy (psymon):

If my brain decides to work, haha.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Psymon i'm sure it will work where mine fails :)

OpenStudy (psymon):

Go for it then. Oh, and how do you kinda quote people like that, never knew how it does that.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

here it is: how would you solve \[\tan^{-1} 6 without a calculator?/\]

OpenStudy (psymon):

inverse tan of 6, right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yup

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(\bf tan^{-1}(6) \ \ ?\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i wanted to use a sum and difference formula but i got crazy radians

OpenStudy (psymon):

Yeah, not even sure how you would do it without something crazy like a sum formula. 6 is no exact number for anything inverse. I just cant imagine doing that without some ridiculous identity process. I could be wrong, though

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:( exactly. the original problem is actually \[\cos (\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }\tan^{-1} 6\]

OpenStudy (psymon):

cos[ (1/2)*tan^(-1)6 ] ? Sorry, that math writing makes no sense to me xD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's why i'm here lol I know that i'm supposed to solve the inverse of tan first. and then half that answer.

OpenStudy (psymon):

Not quite, lol. But did I get the problem correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The original problem? yes you did :) thank you. I'f you'd like to opt out of this new problem that's ok :) I can re-post it just in case someone else can explain it . Thank you so much to you @Psymon and @jdoe0001

OpenStudy (psymon):

Well, I have a kinda sorta idea.......xD

OpenStudy (psymon):

Wanna hear me out and see if it makes any sense?

OpenStudy (psymon):

No idea if this works, but @morningperson1991 not sure if you wanted to hear me out on this one.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's fine :) I'll post it in a few minutes . Thank you for all that you do!

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