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OpenStudy (summersnow8):

What are the tensions in the cords.

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

\[\sum_{}^{} F _{x}=0\] \[F _{T _{1}} \cos(135) + F _{T _{2}} \cos(330)= 0\] \[\sum_{}^{} F _{y}=0\] \[F _{T _{1}} \sin(135) + F _{T _{2}} \sin (330) + -1\] I need to solve for FT1 and FT2, But am having trouble figuring it out.... my professor said that FT1= 49N and FT2= 40N

OpenStudy (theeric):

So the second one you wrote is \(F _{T _{1}} \sin(135) + F _{T _{2}} \sin (330) + -1 \). Is that equal to anything? Is that equal to zero or something?

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

zero, yes sorry

OpenStudy (theeric):

Alright, that might help:\[F _{T _{1}} \sin(135) + F _{T _{2}} \sin (330) + -1=0\]Right?

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

yes

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

would you set them equal to each other?

OpenStudy (theeric):

Any diagram? I'm trying to get a concept of what's going on... That could be one approach that might help!

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

okay 1 sec

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

OpenStudy (theeric):

I see! So we're talking about tension! Not torque. And I still have to find where the \(\+-1\) comes from.

OpenStudy (theeric):

\(+-1\)*

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

CCW is + CW is -

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

sin 270 is -1

OpenStudy (theeric):

Oh! And so would that be \(m\ g\ sin(270^\circ)=m\ g\ (1)=m\ g\)?

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

it would become just -mg

OpenStudy (theeric):

Because it would be the force times that angle.. And I meant negative, sorry!

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

exactly, no it is okay

OpenStudy (theeric):

\(\left|m\ g\right|\ sin(270^\circ)=\left|m\ g\right|\ (-1)=-\left|m\ g\right|\)

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

why absolute?

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

oh nvm, I get it

OpenStudy (theeric):

That makes more sense! :) So, now we have those two equations set up:\[\sum F_x=F _{T _{1}} \cos(135) + F _{T _{2}} \cos(330)= 0\]and\[\sum F_y=F _{T _{1}} \sin(135) + F _{T _{2}} \sin (330) - m\ g=0\]

OpenStudy (theeric):

Nice!

OpenStudy (summersnow8):

yes, okay. now what?

OpenStudy (theeric):

Oh sorry, I have to go! Here's my plan. Solve it like a "system of equations." You can look that up if you're unsure! 1. So, pick one equation and solve it for one force you pick. 2. Then, substitute that into the second equation. 3. Then solve that equation for the other force. 4. Then you'll know that force. 5. Substitute it's value back into the first equation, solved for the force you don't know (the one you solved for first) 6. Then you'll know both forces. I'll be on later tonight, and I'd be happy to see if we arrive at the same result. Sorry I have to go! And best of luck :)

OpenStudy (theeric):

Those instructions were just quick, and some where actually just statements... But I'll use them here anyway. I hope this helps! \[\sum F_x=F _{T _{1}} \cos(135) + F _{T _{2}} \cos(330)= 0\]\[\huge\sf 1. \]I'll solve for \(F_{T_1}\).\[F _{T _{1}} \cos(135) + F _{T _{2}} \cos(330)= 0\]\[F _{T _{1}} \cos(135) =- F _{T _{2}} \cos(330)\]\[F _{T _{1}} =\frac{- F _{T _{2}} \cos(330)}{\cos(135)}\]\[\\\huge\sf 2.\]Now I can substitute that into the other equation (the one for \(\sum \left[F_x\right]\)).\[\ \downarrow\]\[F _{T _{1}} \sin(135) + F _{T _{2}} \sin (330) + m\ g=0\]After substitution... \[\frac{- F _{T _{2}} \cos(330)}{\cos(135)}\sin(135) + F _{T _{2}} \sin (330) + m\ g=0\]\[\\\huge\sf 3.\]And now we solve for \(F_{T_1}\).\[F _{T _{2}}\left(\frac{- \cos(330)}{\cos(135)}\sin(135) + \sin (330)\right) + m\ g=0\]\[F _{T _{2}}\left(\frac{- \cos(330)}{\cos(135)}\sin(135) + \sin (330)\right) = -m\ g\]\[F _{T _{2}} = \frac{-m\ g}{\frac{- \cos(330)}{\cos(135)}\sin(135) + \sin (330)}\]\[=\frac{-m\ g}{0.36602540378443804}=40.202127633376094\ [N]\]Where \(g=-9.81\ [m/s^2]\). \[\\\huge\sf 4.\]So we have \(F_{T_1}\).

OpenStudy (theeric):

Correction: now we have \(F_{T_2}\). \[\huge\sf 5.\]So we solved for \(F_{T_1}\) earlier and got\[F _{T _{1}} =\frac{- F _{T _{2}} \cos(330)}{\cos(135)}\]We put in \(F_{T_2}\)'s value in, and we have\[F _{T _{1}} =\frac{-40.202127633376094\ [N]\ \cos(330)}{\cos(135)}\]\[=49.237349638007452\ [N]\] \[\huge\sf 6.\]Now we have both \(F_{T_1}\) and \(F_{T_2}\). When we round to two significant figures, they are just what your professor said.

OpenStudy (theeric):

Let me know if you have any questions! Like, why did I make it \(+m\ g\)? I did that because \(\left|m\ g\right|\) is the magnitude, and \(270^\circ\) is the angle. But, it works that the direction (negative \(y\)) is given by \(g\), which is really a vector itself. And we're adding \(m\ g\) because it is \(\sum F_y\) - we are adding them up to get 0. It's a different way of looking at it. For your way, you would use \(\left|m\ g\right|\) as the magnitude and the direction would be \(270^\circ\). For my way, I just used the direction given by \(g\), which is negative because \(g\approx -9.81\ [m/s^2]\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Tension is an internal force trying to restore the original length of a rope or a rod pulled or pushed along its length:)

OpenStudy (theeric):

Haha, wonderful definition, @Deba_001 . And I notice that it applies to the original prompt :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

10x theEric

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