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Differential Equations 14 Online
OpenStudy (anonymous):

answered question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

bernoulli's Equation

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

what do you get if you re arrange to dy/dx=

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry but i dont know .................it equal to 1 dont know if I am correct >.<

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

after your get the left hand side to be dy/dx sub v=y/x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ xdy }{ y-xdx }=1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its right?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

yeah, now move the other terms to the other side

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ dy }{ dx }= \frac{ y-x }{ x }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Im correct?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

good

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let v

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[(y-x)/x = y/x - x/x\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

after that

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

x/x simplifies to ...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

good so you have \[\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac yx-1\] now let \(y/x=v\) \(y=vx\) \(y'=?\)

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

use the product rule to find y'

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[y'=v(1) -x\frac{dv }{ dx }\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

should be plus not minus

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ay sorry about that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y′=v(1)+xdv/dx

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

now sub this in \[\frac{dy}{dx}=y/x-1\] becomes \[v+x\frac{dv}{dx}=v-1\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

which is now variables separable

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ dv }{ dx }= \frac{ v ^{2} -v}{ x }\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

um you should have taken away the v from both sides, before dividing by x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

$$(x-y)\,dx+x\,dy=0$$note this is homogeneous; both our functions \(x-y,x\) are homogeneous. as @UnkleRhaukus stated, use a substitution \(y=vx\) i.e. \(dy=\left(x\dfrac{dv}{dx}+v\right)\,dx\):$$(x-vx)dx+x(x\,dv+v\,dx)=0\\(x-vx)\,dx+x^2dv+vx\,dx=0\\x\,dx+x^2\,dv=0\\x^2\,dv=-x\,dx\\dv=-\frac1x\,dx\\v=-\log x+C\\y/x=-\log x+C\\y=-x\log x+Cx$$

OpenStudy (anonymous):

guys can be this one \[xdv=(v ^{2}-v) dx .....then....... (v ^{2}-v)-xdv=0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then identify if its exact DE or not

OpenStudy (anonymous):

?????

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[v+x\frac{dv}{dx}=v-1\\ x\frac{dv}{dx}=-1\\dv=-xdx\\ \\∫dv=-∫dx/x\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

What is the second thing? where does the dx go?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

v=- lnx +c is that right?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

yes, now remember v=y/x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then sub v= y/x to v =-ln x +c

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y = -xlnx+c ?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

almost,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how ?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

the last term,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry about that

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

thats better \(\checkmark\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

tnx i other one here tech me ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

xdx + (y-2x )dy

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

is there an equals sign somewhere?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

=0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ dy }{ dx }=\frac{ -x }{ y- }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2x

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

ok this one is the same technique, rearrange to dy/dx= and substitute v=y/x

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

divide both sides of the fraction by x, to get it in the right form \[\frac{-x}{y-2x}=\frac{-x/x}{y/x-2x/x }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

always? v=y/x even to other problem?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

When we can express the DE as y'(x) = f (y/x) we can call this a homogenous equation and v = y/x substitution will work if we can't get this form y'(x) = f (y/x) this technique wont work

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah i see

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you gve to me the final answer here this will serve as my basis

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

sometimes a 'homogenous equations" means something else

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you gve a sense to me :)

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

i haven't worked out the final answer yet

OpenStudy (anonymous):

by the way thank you :))) tnz alot

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