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OpenStudy (anonymous):
bernoulli's Equation
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
what do you get if you re arrange to
dy/dx=
OpenStudy (anonymous):
sorry but i dont know .................it equal to 1 dont know if I am correct >.<
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
after your get the left hand side to be dy/dx
sub v=y/x
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\frac{ xdy }{ y-xdx }=1\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
its right?
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
yeah, now move the other terms to the other side
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\frac{ dy }{ dx }= \frac{ y-x }{ x }\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Im correct?
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
good
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
then?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
let v
OpenStudy (anonymous):
how?
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[(y-x)/x = y/x - x/x\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
after that
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
x/x simplifies to ...
OpenStudy (anonymous):
1
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
good so you have \[\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac yx-1\]
now let \(y/x=v\)
\(y=vx\)
\(y'=?\)
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
use the product rule to find y'
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[y'=v(1) -x\frac{dv }{ dx }\]
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
should be plus not minus
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ay sorry about that
OpenStudy (anonymous):
y′=v(1)+xdv/dx
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
now sub this in
\[\frac{dy}{dx}=y/x-1\]
becomes
\[v+x\frac{dv}{dx}=v-1\]
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
which is now variables separable
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\frac{ dv }{ dx }= \frac{ v ^{2} -v}{ x }\]
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
um you should have taken away the v from both sides, before dividing by x
OpenStudy (anonymous):
$$(x-y)\,dx+x\,dy=0$$note this is homogeneous; both our functions \(x-y,x\) are homogeneous. as @UnkleRhaukus stated, use a substitution \(y=vx\) i.e. \(dy=\left(x\dfrac{dv}{dx}+v\right)\,dx\):$$(x-vx)dx+x(x\,dv+v\,dx)=0\\(x-vx)\,dx+x^2dv+vx\,dx=0\\x\,dx+x^2\,dv=0\\x^2\,dv=-x\,dx\\dv=-\frac1x\,dx\\v=-\log x+C\\y/x=-\log x+C\\y=-x\log x+Cx$$
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
What is the second thing? where does the dx go?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
v=- lnx +c is that right?
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
yes, now remember v=y/x
OpenStudy (anonymous):
then sub v= y/x to v =-ln x +c
OpenStudy (anonymous):
y = -xlnx+c ?
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
almost,
OpenStudy (anonymous):
how ?
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
the last term,
OpenStudy (anonymous):
cx
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
sorry about that
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
thats better \(\checkmark\)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
tnx i other one here tech me ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
xdx + (y-2x )dy
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
is there an equals sign somewhere?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
=0
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\frac{ dy }{ dx }=\frac{ -x }{ y- }\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
2x
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
ok this one is the same technique, rearrange to dy/dx=
and substitute v=y/x
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
divide both sides of the fraction by x, to get it in the right form \[\frac{-x}{y-2x}=\frac{-x/x}{y/x-2x/x }\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
always? v=y/x even to other problem?
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
When we can express the DE as
y'(x) = f (y/x)
we can call this a homogenous equation
and v = y/x substitution will work
if we can't get this form y'(x) = f (y/x)
this technique wont work
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ah i see
OpenStudy (anonymous):
can you gve to me the final answer here this will serve as my basis
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
sometimes a 'homogenous equations" means something else
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