Here is a ridiculously easy sample question from Oklahoma University's document on preparing for the Putnam Exam. Whoever solves first gets a medal. Took me about 3-4 minutes without a calculator =P. If you beat me on the time as well, then I'll fan you too :D "Find, with explanation, the maximum value of \(\bf f(x)=x^3-3x\) on the set of all real numbers \(\bf x\) satisfying \(\bf x^4+36 \le 13x^2\)."
4:31 AM right now. Your time begins now. (You may also time yourself independently and please be honest lol)
Also, please try to solve the question YOURSELF, i.e. without getting help from ANY other source.
this is what you do for fun?
lol
umm guess its 18 since domain is 2<x<3
LOL @dumbcow got it. but he gets no medal since he guessed.
haha :)
had he not included the word "guess" and i would've given him half a medal =]
I should also include, legit solutions only.
we know it has a max, but -1 and 1 does not satisfy the restraint, so solve the restraint and check the endpoints of the interval.
@zzr0ck3r will provide that for me
im not good at solving those things
lol
@zzr0ck3r you're about to be a math major. stop kidding me.
tell someone to let a = x^2 and that might help
and for the odd powers, i don't think the squared substitution would help
@zzr0ck3r did make a good suggestion which can be used in SOME part of the question which I will not state.
basically re-arrange the inequality, so it comes down to finding the maximum of a function over some interval
to lazy to work out details
Eh, you find the domain that was mentioned previously, in which you check your interval endpoints, get x = 3, plug it in and get 18 as the max value.
thats what i said
well looking at the inequality you get \[(x^2 -9)(x^2 -4)\le 0\]
@Jack111 Everyone is telling me random stuff but noone has given a solution.
I know :P
x^4 +36-13x^2≤0 (x^2)^2-13(x^2)+36<=0 (x^2-9)(x^2-4)<=0
check 3,-3, 2, -2. one will be 18
i am to lazy, if you know pretty much have the idea and the rest is just computation, then why bother
if @dumbcow was right
@zzr0ck3r stop helping unless you're ACTUALLY going to finish the solution lol.
I think you can do this with Lagrange multipliers as well..
The beauty of problem-solving is solving questions creatively with limited knowledge. That's how we gain and create more mathematical knowledge. In short, there is no need to use lagrange multipliers for a problem as simple as this.
we know it has a max y'=0 gives x=-1,1 and these do not satisfy the restraint x^4 +36-13x^2≤0 (x^2)^2-13(x^2)+36<=0 (x^2-9)(x^2-4)<=0 this is cubic so it will be the "right end of the interval" f(3) = 18
cubic with positive coeffecient
ps of course I know there is no need:) and its pretty much the same thing anyway
@zzr0ck3r You're solution is to an extent correct but still lacking.
lol how so?
and the domain would be [-3,-2] U [2,3]
OK, I feel its complete enough now lol. @zzr0ck3r wins.
I should have said its cubic with no square term
$$x^4-13x^2+36\le 0\\(x^2-9)(x^2-4)\le 0$$hence for \([-3,-2]\cup[2,3]\) is the domain of optimization. for \(f(x)=x^3-3x\) observe:$$0=3(x^2-1)\\f''(x)=6x$$ i.e. \(x=\pm 1\) are our relative extrema. for \(x=-1\) we see \(f''<0\) i.e. negative curvature so we have a maximum at \(x=-1\) but this is not in our domain of optimization. since \(f\) is increasing an unbounded for \(x\gt1\) the answer is \(x=3\)
not sure how long it took me probably 3-4 minutes
you still didn't give the max value:P
oh derp \(f(3)=3^3-3^2=18\)
:)
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