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OpenStudy (dls):

Three children,each accompanied by a guardian,seek admission in a school.The principal wants to interview all the 6 people one after another subject to the condition that no child is interviewed before the guardian.In how many ways can this be done?

OpenStudy (dls):

@ganeshie8 @genius12

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3! x3! =36 ways

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol? @dlearner where'd you get that from? 0,o

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok...so there are 3 guardians and 3 kids

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@dlearner Please do give hints..don't give answers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but princi wants to go through the guardians first

OpenStudy (anonymous):

there are 3 guardians..so 3 ways in which the pricni can meet thm....do you get that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@dlearner You got that part right, but you assumed that the three "children" and three "Guardians" are distinguishable when this might not be the case. If they are distinguishable then there is (3!)^2 ways but if they are not then there is only 1 way.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The 3 "children" and 3 "guardians" may suggest that the children's order or guardians' order doesn't matter to the principal but if the names for each individual were given then it would be a different story.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So if the children/guardians are distinguishable; 36 ways. If not then 1 way. @DLS

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh yeah..you r right..i get it

OpenStudy (dls):

60 90 120 180 are the options..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oops :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol......?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@DLS you sure there is no tricks or anything...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no child is interviewed before the guardian

OpenStudy (anonymous):

meaning each guardian before his child

OpenStudy (dls):

G1,G2,G3 are the 3 guardians and C1,C2,C3 are the 3 children.. Many cases can arise.. we might considering binding G1 C1 in 1 group etc..and permuting it..ive actually forgotten PNC XD

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

all possible permutations of interviewing 6 ppl = 6!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

In half of them, G1 will be after C1

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so, in 6!/2 permutations, G1 will be before C1. get the idea ?

OpenStudy (dls):

hmmp

OpenStudy (anonymous):

gr8 stuff ;)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

out of 6!/2, in half of above, G2 will be after C1 so, in 6!/4 permutations, G1 will be before C1, and G2 will be before C2

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

6!/8 is your answer

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

i had a type in my previous reply :- out of 6!/2, in half of above, G2 will be after \(\color{red}{C2}\) so, in 6!/4 permutations, G1 will be before C1, and G2 will be before C2

OpenStudy (dls):

seems correct! but why didn't we subtract 8 then?

OpenStudy (dls):

i mean out of 6! (total permutations) - 3 cases(C1G1,C2G2,C3G3) ? I mean this

OpenStudy (dls):

answer is 120 BTW not 90..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

6!/8 is 93. something not in options ??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

omg i forgot that the question is talking about the RESPECTIVE guardian lol................

OpenStudy (dls):

it is 90 @dlearner

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the way i was thinking was that no guardian could go before a child lol -.-

OpenStudy (dls):

haha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i mean no child can go before a guardian* lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah..a little mistake @DLS

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

we can subtract the 3 cases aswell.. but it wud be painful. division is simple here

OpenStudy (dls):

we still didn't get right answer..and can anybody tell what is wrong with the statement I made above?

OpenStudy (dls):

720-3= 717 ? :|

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

is that the way u preparing for JEE ha ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

OpenStudy (dls):

:O

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

look at the attached file - brute force of 720 permutations and pruning the permutations in which children are before their respective guardians. 90 is your answer.. 120 is incorrect.

OpenStudy (dls):

why is 720-3 incorrect?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

from where u got 3 ?

OpenStudy (dls):

3 cases.. C1G1 C2G2 C3G3 are the cases to be discarded..right? :/

OpenStudy (dls):

okay i guess i got it :P

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

3 cases :- 1) first case when C1 is before G1 this gives u many permuations. work them

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

cool :) when u free try the subtraction method. should give u 90

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