Limits HELP!!
@Fifciol @ash2326
No Idea wat that is!!
I mean I m8 be knowing the rule...But dunno if its L'Hopital's!! I heard Hopital's rule in differentiation!!
And??
hw 2 apply it here??
Ummmmm........Guys???
\[\frac{ x }{ x+1 }\le \frac{ 1+x+sinx }{ x+cosx } \le \frac{ 2+x }{ x-1 }\] using squeeze theorem you can easy check that this limit is 1
Is this correct???
@Fifciol Is it r8 ????
I dunno
one from your eyeballs
Sry??
sine and cosine are stuck between -1 and 1, they are irrelevant to this problem
So just ignore them?? Then I get 0/0 +1
you have \(\frac{x}{x}=1\)
this is clear right? imagine even if \(x=10^3=1000\) not really that big of a number you have basically 1000/1000= 1 and can only be off by at most 2 on the top and 1 on the bottom
but if you want you can certainly use @Fifciol squeeze theorem above
I have no idea of sqeeze theo1!!:(
But @satellite73 I learnt 0/0 is undefined!!what say to that??
@Loser66 sinx/x=1 when x tends to 0 and not infinity:(
lol
@Fifciol @satellite73 @Loser66 CAn u guys suggest a good link to learn squeeze theorem??
it's very simple , you bound left side by something that you now that is less or equal then mid one in this case sinx and cosx have values in interval <-1;1> so the left side to be always less or equal I want numerator to be the smallest ( so sinx must be -1) and denominator to be the largest ( cosx =1) and analogically you do it with right side. If the limit of left side is the same as right side the limit of mid one expression must be equal to that value of limit of each side that's what the squeeze theorem is all about
Like @satellite73 mentioned, you can use the fact that \(\dfrac{x}{x}=1\) for nonzero \(x\). \[\lim_{x\to\infty}\frac{x+\sin x+1}{x+\cos x}\cdot\frac{\frac{1}{x}}{\frac{1}{x}}\\ \lim_{x\to\infty}\frac{1+\frac{\sin x}{x}+\frac{1}{x}}{1+\frac{\cos x}{x}} \] Now you have \(\dfrac{\sin x}{x},\dfrac{\cos x}{x},\dfrac{1}{x}\to0\) as \(x\to\infty\), leaving you with \[\lim_{x\to\infty}1\]
It looks like what you did, with the exception of using an intermediate substitution along the way.
Tnx @SithsAndGiggles But isnt sinx/x where x tends to infinity 0??
Its 1 when x tends to 0!!
Yeah, didn't I say that?
Did U??sry ...cudnt getcha!!
\[\large \dfrac{\sin x}{x},\dfrac{\cos x}{x},\dfrac{1}{x}\to0~~\text{as}~~x\to\infty\]
@Fifciol Tnx for the help on sqeeeeeeeze theo!!
Now I got it....
I wouldn't have used it if I had thought that sinx/x goes to zero when x goes to infinity, but I've reminded myself squeeze theory tho :)
Love the phrase sqeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze theorem! Anyways Cheers!!
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