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Create and explain one way that you plan to use a logical appeal in your project. Include source information if your appeal comes from or uses something from your research. You should respond in complete sentences.

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Help plz!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Will reward Medal!!!!!
Create and explain one way that you plan to use a logical appeal in your project. Include source information if your appeal comes from or uses something from your research. You should respond in complete sentences.

falco276 · Answer

My project is on why many FB users lose their friends day by day.
Can someone please give me an idea on how to answer this question using my topic?
Please help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

falco276 · Answer

@e.mccormick

e.mccormick · Answer

Was this assigned or did you pick it?

falco276 · Answer

I picked the topic but the question is assigned to me.

e.mccormick · Answer

OK, so what do you know about FB users losing their friends every day?

falco276 · Answer

Well, the more they lose thier friends the sadder they get. Like in a Loneliness state.

e.mccormick · Answer

So you are saying it is some sort of viscous circle.  They get sad and post some stupid things, lose some friends, this makes them sadder so they do more stupid things, rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat....

falco276 · Answer

Yes.

e.mccormick · Answer

OK.

Now, have you gone over ehtos, pathos, and logos?

falco276 · Answer

No, I'm really confused on that.
Never tried to understand it. :?

e.mccormick · Answer

Ethos, or the argument to ethics, comes in as being a fair minded and knowledgeable appeal for a point of view.

Pathos, or the argument to emotion, is where you aim to connect the reader with the topic in a way that means them feel for it.

Logos, or the argument to logic, is where you use the tools of logic such as strong claims that have a good deal of supporting facts.

falco276 · Answer

Thx for explaining this to me. My lesson on my virtual school did not show this.

e.mccormick · Answer

A strong claim is one that is well stated, has evidence to back it up, is used for reasons and not whims, has qualifiers (limits) where needed, and comes together as something the opposition ends up having to accept because it is simply so evidently true.

falco276 · Answer

ok. and I'm still confused about the question. :?

e.mccormick · Answer

A lot of times that is the issue.  People just miss some critical information about what they need to do or how and then it all becomes a mess.  When the class does not present things well, this happens a lot.

As for the question, they are asking for a logos argument for your topic.  Just one is needed.  So, look at what that logos argument is:  Some sort of supported claim.  That means statistics, interviews, experts, etc.  Observations and anecdotes are OK, as long as they are documented properly.

falco276 · Answer

I think I might know on how to use the logos idea for my topic. 
But where would I get a report like this for FB users losing thier friends rapidly?
Is there a good website to look it up? Did this really happen? IDK I just picked it. :/

e.mccormick · Answer

Well, why did you pick it?  Because you have seen it happen?

falco276 · Answer

Actually no, but there were essays based on this topic I looked up.

falco276 · Answer

Another OS user told me about this topic and there I used it.

e.mccormick · Answer

Ah, OK.  So, did any of those have a bibliography or citation list?

falco276 · Answer

Im not so sure because I can't open my assignment as a word document because it's currently in an ODT format.

e.mccormick · Answer

Well, you can upload ODT to Google Docs and convert it, or download Open Office for free and use it because ODT is the native format for it.

falco276 · Answer

Really? How do I upload that on Google Docs?

e.mccormick · Answer

Log into Google Docs... it should be pretty obvious from the last time I used it.... Any Google account automatically has docs.

falco276 · Answer

erm... okay. :)

e.mccormick · Answer

Hmmm... but this setting needs to be on: https://docs-a-googleproductforums-com.googlegroups.com/attach/3bf33ebeb8c702a8/Screen%20Shot%202012-12-02%20at%2019.27.11.png?view=1&part=4 It causes it to convert things to their format, which then makes it able to be used, viewed, exported, etc.

falco276 · Answer

Does it also work through Google Drive?

e.mccormick · Answer

Yah, that is what they have changed the file store to.

falco276 · Answer

How would I covert the ODT file to a word doc on Google Drive?

e.mccormick · Answer

OK.  I uploaded an ODT with that convert setting on.  It made a Google Doc very easily.

e.mccormick · Answer

When the doc is there, you can pick download and it lists the file formats, including Word.

e.mccormick · Answer

This goes over the settings needed for the upload part: http://blogs.pcc.edu/tss-training/2013/06/03/check-your-google-drive-upload-settings/

falco276 · Answer

ok. I'll try it.

e.mccormick · Answer

Ah ha! And in looking for an image of the download, I found something that covers the whole process: http://blogs.ces.uwex.edu/mcn/2013/05/14/importing-exporting-and-converting/

falco276 · Answer

Well, I think it's for a different assignment, sorry!
But I will find it! Don't worry.

e.mccormick · Answer

Well, you said you had seen some papers by other people on this.

falco276 · Answer

Um I can give you the website that talked about my topic.

falco276 · Answer

http://www.policymic.com/articles/23835/facebook-losing-users-is-this-the-end-of-the-social-network

falco276 · Answer

I think it was this one.

e.mccormick · Answer

OK, that is a different issue than what you stated initially.  That is not a person losing friends, but rather FB doing stupid things and losing users.  I found some references to that too.

falco276 · Answer

Oh, I see.
Well, I might be confused between the two. IDK.

e.mccormick · Answer

Well, have you submitted this topic?  Is it something locked in stone?  Or can we just transition from loss of FB friens to FB users?

falco276 · Answer

Let's make it FB users. :)

e.mccormick · Answer

OK.  So, then you are looking at why FB is having issues... which is good, because that is a well reported on topic!

e.mccormick · Answer

Here are just a few samples. Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamespoulos/2013/04/30/facebooks-millions-of-lost-users-highlight-our-bizarro-economy/ Some source I don't know cerditbility of, but it is a good article: http://dangerousminds.net/comments/facebook_i_want_my_friends_back Search Engine Journal on the ads: http://www.searchenginejournal.com/facebook-ads-what-are-you-really-paying-for/46194/

e.mccormick · Answer

In a logos argument, you want some sources, preferably reliable sources, that relate to your topic.    Then you summarize those sources and reference them.  Try to avoid direct quotes because you need to really cite and quote those carefully.  When you do quote, try and keep it down to just being a very strong line, and that is it.  No more.  Be sure to put it in " " marks and be clear about who wrote it.  In a college paper, ONE unattributed quote can even get you kicked from the class.  Usually it just means an instant F on the paper, but some professors are really hard on it, so it is best to get really used to not using quotes or being exceptionally clear when you do so.

e.mccormick · Answer

The safest and best way to do a logos argument with an appeal to authority is to just list the sources and talk about what they say.

"Create and explain one way that you plan to use a logical appeal in your project. Include source information if your appeal comes from or uses something from your research. You should respond in complete sentences."

Now, you don't need to make the actual argument yet.  Those instructions are pretty clear!

Explain how you plan to...  OK.  It is logic, so some sort of statistics or authority or survey.... well, those articles have all sorts of those things!  So pick an article, find another one or use one of those, and find some key information in it.  Then write a paragraph or two that says what basic argument you have, "Facebook is losing users because of this..."  and what you used as a source, "The article/blog/etc. of so and so supports this with..." the list if it was interviews, statistics, whatever.

That is the whole assignment.

Now, be sure to pick good sources and to keep track of what you use.  That way when you write the real paper, you already have the research done and the writing part will be easier!

e.mccormick · Answer

Here is a really good reference to what the three classical arguments are and are not: http://uwc.ucf.edu/files/handouts/Three_Appeals_%20Argument.pdf In both college English and Philosophy they still teach this, and it was developed by Aristotle something like 2500 years ago! The basics of an argument have been known that long, and are still valid today! There have been lots of more complex things added on top of this since then, but if you can develop these three basic types of argument, you should do well in any form of written communication where you need to express a specific point of view. Well, they are also good in verbal things, but usually take time to develop.

falco276 · Answer

Sorry I wasen't there. I was eating lunch. but hey, thanks for the info! :)

e.mccormick · Answer

np.  That should give you some stuff to work with.

falco276 · Answer

ok! :D