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OpenStudy (anonymous):

If hessian determinant is zero, what else can you perform to determine if point P is saddle, local mininmum or local maximum?

OpenStudy (jack1):

The Hessian determinant of a function f(x,y) is defined as H(x,y) = fxx(x,y)fyy(x,y) - fxy(x,y)fyx(x,y). The Second Partials Test states that if a function f(x,y) has continuous second partials and fx(x0,y0) = 0 and fy(x0,y0) = 0, then 1. H > 0 and fxx(x0,y0) > 0 implies (x0,y0) is a local minimum; 2. H > 0 and fxx(x0,y0) < 0 implies (x0,y0) is a local maximum; 3. H < 0 implies (x0,y0) is a saddle point; 4. H = 0 then the test is inconclusive. http://www.math.brown.edu/~banchoff/howison/ma35labs-static-latest/20p1.html know very little about hessian determinants, but hope this helps...?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah I knew that much from previous math courses. But none of my math prof's ever taught me what happens or which procedure to use if hessian is zero.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I Googled it. It sounds like it gets hairy. It used big words. One that I didn't understand and didn't cover in my Calc III class. I found this off a website: "Basically, if the Hessian determinant is 0, the higher-order terms may be needed to determine the classification of a critical point, but this is not at all trivial to do in general (with or without Maple). If I were trying to do it by hand, I'd hope there were special features of the problem that I could use. If you know that f(x,y) = 0 only on the lines y=x and y=-x, which divide the xy plane into regions, in each of which f(x,y) is either positive or negative. Thus a critical point that only touches regions where f(x,y) is positive would be a local minimum."

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