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OpenStudy (anonymous):

How do I find the intersection of each pair of planes or lines (see attached photo) please

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

tht hard tbh

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im sorry i cannot help u

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i can give u answer but not how to do it :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ikr

OpenStudy (anonymous):

people r replying to mine omg ty

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910 please help

OpenStudy (anonymous):

he is good

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if two planes intersect, you get a line or line segment if two lines intersect, then you get a point

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910 i dont know how to find planes

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

a plane is just a flat surface so for instance, the bottom face made up by the points OPQR is one plane the front face is made up by the points DRQC they intersect or cross to form the line segment RQ

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

make sense?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910 that makes sense but in my book it says planes " ABP" and "BCD" but wouldnt it be planes "ABPO" and "BCDA" (look @ pic)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you only need 3 points to make a plane the 4th point is extra and unneccesary

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910 so the 4th letter should be included but it isnt?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so ABPO is the same as ABP and you don't need that fourth point O

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

no it doesn't have to be included because it's extra info that you don't need

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910 but that is part of the planes right

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes but you need a min of 3 points using that 4th point is just extra work why go through all that trouble when you can use 3 points

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if you can say the same thing, but in a shorter way, then why not go for it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910 ok so the intersection of planes ABP and BCD would be would be what idk how to find that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

line AD?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

plane ABP (aka plane ABPO) is the very back face plane BCD (aka plane BCDA) is the top face

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what do they both have in common? where do they cross or intersect?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

line BP?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

one sec, I'm going to post an image

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

here is the back face ABP or ABPO

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

here is the top face BCD or BCDA

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

and here are the two faces highlighted together (red on top, blue in back) you can see they intersect at line AB

OpenStudy (anonymous):

couldnt they also intersect line AD

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

no AD is part of the top face, but NOT part of the back face

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

when two planes intersect, they will only have 1 line in common

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so lines RQ and RO would intersect where im so confused sorry

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well if you ignore the picture, what do RQ and RO have in common (in terms of letters)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh R

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it would just be Point R? @jim_thompson5910

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and the same thing goes for planes ADR and DCQ ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Or since its DCQR they would have points D and R in common i dont know ughj

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OH WAIT so for planes ADR AND DCQ it would be line DR? @jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

RQ and RO have point R in common good

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so RQ and RO intersect at point R

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

and you're correct again, planes ADR and DCQ intersect at line DR

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so do they intersect at point R or line DR @jim_thompson5910 ?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

depends on if you're asking about the lines intersecting or the planes intersecting

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

RQ and RO are two lines that intersect at the point R ADR and DCQ are two planes that intersect at line DR

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wold plane BCQ just be plane BCQ or would it be BCQP

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

BCQ is a shorter way to refer to BCQP I would go with BCQ since it's faster

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910 i know but is the whole thing BCQP

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes it is but there's no need to list P since BCQ does the job just fine

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok and the intersectino to planes BCD and BCQ would be point B or

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I Mean they share points B,C,and A

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

point A is part of the top face but it is NOT part of the face on the right side

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so they intersect at line BC

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

only B and C are in common so put together, the two planes intersect to form segment BC

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

good you beat me to it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

segment BC or line BC

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

segment

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

it doesn't stretch on forever in both directions, so it's not a line it's a segment

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then why did we say line BR for the intersection of the planes ADR and DCQ

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

we didn't say BR we said DR

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i mean DR

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

because points D and R are on BOTH planes

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

any point between D and R are also on both so overall, segment DR is on both planes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

segment??

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes it's a segment

OpenStudy (anonymous):

line or segment BC is on both planes too

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you just said it was a line tho

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ughhj

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

sorry I mixed up terms DR is a segment since it's not infinitely long

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do u know if it is infinitely long

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

example, this is a line because it goes on forever in both directions |dw:1377471068641:dw|

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

this is a line segment or a segment (let's call it a segment only to avoid confusing terms) |dw:1377471105715:dw| since it's not infinitely long

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the arrows indicate if the line stretches on forever

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910 but how can you tell that on a figure? (the pic)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

there are no arrows on any of the lines, so they are segments that do NOT go on forever

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

they are segments with a set and fixed length

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910 so every 2 points on the figure that connect is a segment and there are no lines

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

correct, that's a very good way of looking at it

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

a segment has 2 endpoints a line does not have any endpoints

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so for the one I asked about the planes ABP and BCD they woud intersect at SEGMENT AB not line AB

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes that is correct

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the confusing thing about geometry is that the term "line" is used very loosely but to be very very technical, a line is something that is straight and it extends in both directions forever a segment is something that has 2 endpoints (technically though, a segment is a line since you can call it a line segment...just stick with "segment" though)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910 so in all of geometry whenever there is figure and they ask you to name the intersection of each pair planes or lines on a figure its always gonna be a point or a segment? right?

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