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OpenStudy (gorica):

How to show that force is conservative?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We can do that if it is possible for it to write in terms of a gradient along with a negative sign.

OpenStudy (gorica):

can you do that for \[\vec F=-mg \vec k\]

OpenStudy (naveenbabbar):

The work done by a conservative force over a closed loop/path is always zero.

OpenStudy (naveenbabbar):

Work done by the force is independent of nature of path followed and depends on initial and final position. the force involved is then conservative.

OpenStudy (naveenbabbar):

Example :- Gravitational force, Electrostatic force

OpenStudy (gorica):

@naveenbabbar I would appreciate if you could show it on example. Only theory doesn't help me much.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This relation is a simple form of a complicated formula \[F=mM/r ^{2}\] so we can write,\[F=-gradV=-grad(mM/r ^{1})=mM/r ^{2}\] where \[V=-mM/r\] is potential function of the body.

OpenStudy (naveenbabbar):

ok wait a minute

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok!

OpenStudy (naveenbabbar):

OpenStudy (naveenbabbar):

Look for the attachment and try to solve this question

OpenStudy (gorica):

@Saeeddiscover can you do that using (iii) from this proposition?

OpenStudy (gorica):

Can I do that writing like this\[\vec F d \vec r=-dΦ\] where \[dΦ\neq0\]? If it is =0, will it be conservative force?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it should be, because curl of a gradient is always zero. or\[Curl F=Curl(grad V)=0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No it doesn't show the axiom.

OpenStudy (gorica):

no, I am not asking you to prove axiom, but if I can show that way that a force is conservative

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I strongly recommend looking at some mathematical textbooks such as George B. Arfken's.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Nothing can be adopted if you wish to consider the case \[d \theta=0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Any questions!

OpenStudy (gorica):

I don't understand it much, but thanks anyway.

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