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OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

logarithmic functions (problem inside)

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

\[\log _{5}2x - 5 = -4\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hug me?

OpenStudy (phi):

is the -5 part of the log ?

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

there are no parenthesis

OpenStudy (phi):

without parens, the -5 is outside the log

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

really. weird

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

i have no idea how to solve that

OpenStudy (phi):

add 5 to both sides then it is the same problem with a different base

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

x = 1/2 ?

OpenStudy (phi):

no wait. you should get log_5(2x) = 1 make each side the exponent of base 5: 5^log_5(2x) = 5^1 2x = 5 x= 5/2

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

what about ones like this \[3(5)^{2x - 3} = 6\]

OpenStudy (phi):

divide both sides by 3 take the log of both sides use the property that \[\log(a^b) = b \log(a) \]

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

\[x = \frac{ 3 }{ 2 } + \frac{ \ln (3) }{ 2\ln (5) }\]

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

x = 1.8413

OpenStudy (phi):

go in smaller steps... you are close, but you went astray

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

i don't know what to do differently! i thought that was right

OpenStudy (phi):

I think you did 6/3 wrong

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

6/3 = 2

OpenStudy (phi):

now keep going

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

OH WAIT

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

i figured it out

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

x = 2 ?

OpenStudy (phi):

\[ 3(5)^{2x - 3} = 6 \\(5)^{2x - 3} = 2 \\ \ln\left(5^{2x - 3}\right)= \ln2 \\ (2x-3) \ln(5)= \ln(2) \\2x-3 = \frac{\ln(2)}{\ln(5)}\]

OpenStudy (phi):

somehow you got ln(3)/ln(5) ... \[ x= \frac{3}{2}+ \frac{\ln2}{2 \ln5} \]

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

is that the final answer?

OpenStudy (phi):

you could change it to a decimal with a calculator

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

this hurts my brain

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

\[2^{x - 4} + 10 = 22\]

OpenStudy (phi):

always combine like terms... the 10 and the 22 add -10 to both sides now it is the same problem as the previous one

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

and i have no idea how i solved the previous one. ugh

OpenStudy (phi):

so far you have 2^(x-4) = 12 to undo the exponent , use a log (or ln) on both sides

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

\[x - 4 = \frac{ \ln 12 }{ \ln 2 }\]

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

am i on the right track

OpenStudy (phi):

yes. though you did a few steps all at once... if you really are unsure, go slower.

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

i wrote them out on paper and just showed you the last step i reached because now i'm not sure what to do

OpenStudy (phi):

you are solving for x. you want x by itself on the left side

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

\[x = 4 + \frac{ \ln 12 }{ 2\ln 2 }\]

OpenStudy (phi):

yes. if you use a calculator to find x, and use that value in the original equation , it should check out.

OpenStudy (katherinesmith):

i have one left. will open a new question

OpenStudy (phi):

one problem... you had \[ x - 4 = \frac{ \ln 12 }{ \ln 2 } \] you should get \[ x = 4+ \frac{ \ln 12 }{ \ln 2 } \] somehow you got 2 ln(2) in the bottom....

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