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OpenStudy (mandre):

Definite integral help. Wait for it :)

OpenStudy (mandre):

\[\int\limits_{\frac{ -\Pi }{ 4 }}^{\frac{ \Pi }{ 6 }}(-\sin x) dx\] I got \[\cos(\frac{ \Pi }{ 6 }) - \cos(\frac{ -\Pi }{ 4 })\] Right so far?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

first of all, you know you can "factor" out the -1 right away right?

OpenStudy (psymon):

Hes got it right either way so far, lol.

OpenStudy (mandre):

isn't antiderivative of (-sinx) = cosx?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[- \int\limits_{-\pi/4}^{\pi/2} \sin(x) dx\] The derivative of what function makes sin(x)?

OpenStudy (mandre):

I'm used to working with degrees so radians trip me a bit

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's right. my apologies. i never doubted you :)

OpenStudy (mandre):

lol thanks

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1pi rad = 180deg

OpenStudy (mandre):

I know, but I automatically convert it in my brain, but I must get used to workign with rads

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you'll get used to it I assure you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You should watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao4EJzNWmK8

OpenStudy (mandre):

\[\cos 30 = \frac{ \sqrt{3} }{ 2 } and \cos(-45) = \frac{ 1 }{ \sqrt{2} }?\]

OpenStudy (mandre):

Options are 1) \[\frac{ 2 }{ \sqrt{3} }-\sqrt{2}\] 2) \[\sqrt{2}-\frac{ 1 }{ \sqrt{3} }\] 3) \[\frac{ 1 }{ \sqrt{2} }-\frac{ 2 }{ \sqrt{3} }\] 4) \[2-(\frac{ \sqrt{2}+\sqrt{3} }{ 2 })\]

OpenStudy (mandre):

I get \[\frac{ \sqrt{3} }{ 2 }-\frac{ 1 }{ \sqrt{2} }\] Am I wrong?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did i goof?

OpenStudy (mandre):

Its Pi/ 6 the top one. You goofed.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha. also i did the subtracting in the wrong order XD

OpenStudy (mandre):

I see so. You confused me there for a bit.

OpenStudy (mandre):

Is my answer right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think I can help

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\int\limits_{-\pi/4}^{\pi/6} -\sin(x)\] \[= \cos(\pi/6) - \cos(-\pi/4)\] = sqr(3)/2 - 1/sqrt(2)

OpenStudy (mandre):

So I'm right. Problem is I just cannot get my answer into a form that's one of the options.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let's take a look

OpenStudy (mandre):

Option 3 is like you. Wrong way around lol. I presume in a definite integral the upper bound is always more than the lower?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it doesn't need to be

OpenStudy (mandre):

I'm pretty sure I saw in Khan academy video that upper must be higher than lower.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\int\limits_{a}^{b}f(x) dx = -\int\limits_{b}^{a} f(x) dx\] There's a little identity you'll probably run into soon :)

OpenStudy (mandre):

Makes sense but then we have a missing (-1) right?

OpenStudy (mandre):

That's the same as saying (a-b) = -(b-a) so nothing too complicated there :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm i think we have the correct solution but just need to move things around a little.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol nothing immediately comes to mind...

OpenStudy (mandre):

I put all of them in excel and none of the four is equal to my answer. Is my answer definitely right?

OpenStudy (mandre):

Can't believe I forgot about wolfram alpha. Or maybe I misread the question: It says f(x)= -sin x and x is element of [ -pi/4, pi/6] Calculate area under graph of f.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in that solution you multiply the top and bottom of 1/sqrt(2) by sqrt(2)/sqrt(2) and that makes the answer the same. It's ok to do this because sqrt(2)/sqrt(2) = 1.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nope sounds good to me

OpenStudy (mandre):

I put my answer into excel and get same as wolfram alpha = 0.158918623 1) gives me -0.259513024 2) gives me 0.836863293 3) gives me -0.447593757 4) gives me 0.426867815 So it looks like all the answers are wrong.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that would make sense :P

OpenStudy (mandre):

So do I complain to my lecturer? lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think so :)

OpenStudy (mandre):

Ach i have so much trouble with my university, but at the moment it's the only place I can study :(. Thanks for your help though.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hey, if its just the odd mistake, no big deal. But either way, i hope your studies are meaningful and fulfilling :) All the best

OpenStudy (mandre):

I've learnt a lot so far especially calculus, so I'm thankful for that. Thanks again :).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

goodnight!

OpenStudy (mandre):

good morning lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha maybe for you ... see you around

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