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OpenStudy (wolfe8):

I need help with b (picture). Are there any identities I should know to answer this? There are so many and I need help pointing out which ones.

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Use\[ \mathbf a=\langle a_1,a_2,a_3 \rangle\\ \mathbf b=\langle b_1,b_2,b_3 \rangle \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

In otherwords... just perform the operations with these filler variables. Make sense @wolfe8

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

Right. I could probably work it out if I use explicit vector components, but the question asks me to use index notation, which is where I need help with.

OpenStudy (john_es):

Following @wio, for the first case (the simplest), \[\sum_{i=1}^3\frac{\partial}{\partial x_i}(a_i+b_i)=\sum_{i=1}^3\frac{\partial}{\partial x_i}a_i+\sum_{i=1}^3\frac{\partial}{\partial x_i}b_i=\nabla \mathbf{A}+\nabla \mathbf{B}\]

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

Thanks John but I got the first part. I used \[(A _{i}+B _{i})_{i}=A _{ii}+B _{ii}=the things on RHS\] Sorry I don't know how to do some notations here

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

A side question: does it make a difference if there is a dot between the symbol and vectors? From what I understand, if there is none, it's a gradient. If there is a dot it's a divergent and if there's a cross it's a curl.

OpenStudy (john_es):

Ok, may be I would have used the notation, \[\sum_{i=1}^{3}\frac{\partial}{\partial x_i}(\mathbf{A}+\mathbf{B})_i=\sum_{i=1}^{3}\frac{\partial {A_i}}{\partial x_i}+\sum_{i=1}^{3}\frac{\partial {B_i}}{\partial x_i}\]

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

Yes that's better than what I wrote! Thanks! I am almost completely clueless on the second part though.

OpenStudy (john_es):

Gradient (with or without dot) is only between the nabla symbol an a scalar function. Divergence (with or without dot) is only between the nabla symbol an a vectorial function. Curl (with the cross symbol) is only between the nabla symbol an a vectorial function.

OpenStudy (john_es):

Ok, for the second part, you will find usefull the Levi Civita symbol, \[(\mathbf{A}\times\mathbf{B})_i=\varepsilon_{ijk}A_jB_k\]

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

Right. So after some lines I have in the end \[\sum_{i}^{}\frac{ \delta }{ deltax _{i} }\sum_{jk}^{}\in _{ijk} A _{j}B _{k}\] And then what do I do?

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

Oh well that is supposed to be a delta/deltax

OpenStudy (john_es):

Now you must use the product rule for derivatives.

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

I think I have this wrong but I get \[\sum_{ijk}^{}\frac{ \delta B _{k} }{ \delta x _{i} }A _{j}+\frac{ \delta A _{i} }{ \delta x _{i} }B _{k}\]

OpenStudy (john_es):

\[\sum_{i=1}^3\varepsilon_{ijk}A_jB_k=\sum_{i=1}^3\varepsilon_{ijk}\frac{\partial A_i}{\partial x_i}b_k+\sum_{i=1}^3\varepsilon_{ijk}\frac{\partial B_k}{\partial x_i}a_j\]

OpenStudy (john_es):

Now you must swap index. The first term need an even permutation so doesn't change its sign, but the second needs an odd permutation so changes its sign. \[\sum_{i=1}^3\varepsilon_{ijk}A_jB_k=\sum_{i=1}^3\varepsilon_{ijk}\frac{\partial A_j}{\partial x_i}b_k+\sum_{i=1}^3\varepsilon_{ijk}\frac{\partial B_k}{\partial x_i}a_j=\\ =\sum_{i=1}^3b_k\varepsilon_{kij}\frac{\partial A_j}{\partial x_i}+\sum_{i=1}^3a_j\varepsilon_{jik}\frac{\partial B_k}{\partial x_i}=\mathbf{B}(\nabla\times\mathbf{A})-\mathbf{A}(\nabla\times\mathbf{B})\]

OpenStudy (john_es):

I corrected an index I missed before.

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

Oh so I wasn't supposed to just remove the Epsilon. I must be really tired because I don't see any difference between what you wrote and your correction. Oh wow thanks a bunch John! You really are a life saver.

OpenStudy (john_es):

;), the difference was in the first term, after the equal, I wrote A_i instead A_j. Now is ok.

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

Ohh yeah.

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