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OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

Yaloswagomatics

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

@Shikanu

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

Theorem: there exists two irrational numbers n and m such that \(\large n^m\) is rational

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

let us use the number \(\Huge \sqrt{2}^\sqrt{2}\)

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

if \(\Huge \sqrt{2}^\sqrt{2}\) is irrational, then \(\Huge \sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^\sqrt{2}}\)=\(\Huge \sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}*\sqrt{2}}=\Huge \sqrt{2}^2=2\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\Huge \sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^\sqrt{2}} Where did this come from

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

well take n=\(\sqrt 2\) and take m=\(\Huge \sqrt{2}^\sqrt{2}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

if \(\Huge \sqrt{2}^\sqrt{2}\) is rational, then take n=\(\sqrt{2}\) and m=\(\sqrt 2\) and you are finished.

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

QED

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This is harder to wrap my head around than the other thereom.

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

so whether or not \(\Huge \sqrt{2}^\sqrt{2}\) is rational or irrational we just proved the theorem.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

? NO luck here

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

OK. Let's start over. Theorem: there exists two irrational numbers n and m such that \(n^m\) is rational

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

Let us look at the number \(\Huge \sqrt{2}^\sqrt{2}\) It is either rational or irrational, correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I thought it was just rational I do not see how it is both

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

the number \(\Huge \sqrt{2}^\sqrt{2}\) is either rational or irrational (but not both) correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh Ok

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

let us first assume that the number \(\Huge \sqrt{2}^\sqrt{2}\) is rational. Then, for the theorem we attempt to prove, take n=\(\sqrt 2\) and m=\(\sqrt 2\) and the theorem is true.

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

Correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, so in the above example you said it was rational. What happens if you assume it is irrational. What changes?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Gin_Ichimaru

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

Let us now assume that \(\Huge \sqrt{2}^\sqrt{2}\) is irrational. Then, \(\large (\sqrt{2})^{\sqrt{2}^\sqrt{2}}=(\sqrt{2})^{\sqrt2*\sqrt2}\)

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

=\(\sqrt2^2=2\)

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

take n=\(\sqrt{2}\) and m=\(\Huge \sqrt{2}^\sqrt{2}\) and the theorem is true.

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

therefore the theorem is true. QED

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So since it is neither rational or irrational, The answer will always be 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

?

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

No.

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

If \(\Huge \sqrt{2}^\sqrt{2}\) is rational then the theorem is true. If \(\Huge \sqrt{2}^\sqrt{2}\) is irrational then the theorem is still true. Therefore the theorem must be true.

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

I broke it down into two cases, and showed that for either case that the theorem was true.

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

this is called a non-constructive proof because I never established whether or not \(\Huge \sqrt{2}^\sqrt{2}\) is rational or irrational. I merely used it as an example, and showed that in any case the theorem would be true, if only I took different values for n and m.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh okay

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yoloswagomatics is a good name for this, no doubt

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

yup.

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