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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Derivative question, picture posted with question. Please help figure out how to do this. Grade 12 calc.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Part B)ii) is the part I can't solve

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got a(1/2)^5 as the amount for the substance to reach 1/32

OpenStudy (anonymous):

after 0 days 1/1th after 20 days 1/2 after 40 days 1/4 etc

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So that is 20*(1/2)^n To get the rate of decay you have to derive the function and then use the answer of question B)i) and enter it in the derivative function

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got 5a/16

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[-5\log(2) \times 2^{2-n}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which rule did you apply there?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hey jdoe

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Really struggling with this question :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for b.i. my answer is 100 years

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but i fugred that out because (1/2)^x=(1/32)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and x=5 multipled by half life of 20

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hey agent smith

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Did you get the equation for the rate of decay first? You'll prob need it for part b ii

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no i didnt

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i figured it would be a(1/2)^n/20

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but im kinda stumped now i have been looking at this question for over an hour

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

\[\Large A = A_o e^{-kx}\] You should be using an equation something like this. k is your rate of decay. After 20 days (ie x=20), A is equal to 0.5Ao, so plug those in and find k.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

In our book it says A=A(initial amount)^(t/(half life rate))

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Oh i think i was thinking of exponential decay. \[\Large A = A_o ^{t/20}\] find the derivative of this function then

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

actually it should probably be\[\Large A = A_o ^{t/r}\] where r is the half life rate, which you find with the 20 days.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so i get a(1/2)^5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which becomes 5a/16

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is this correct?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Are you sure this is the correct equation? \[\huge A = A_o ^{\frac{ t }{ r }} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

A(1/2)^100/20

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And then i took a derivative of that

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Is r actually the half-life of 20 days, or is it a half life rate?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

half life rate is 20 days

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i need the rate of decay at 100 days

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Then you can't use half A., only 1/32 remains. A=A(initial amount)^(t/(half life rate)) and this formula seems to not be the one you're using... when you post things like A(1/2)^100/20, that is not the same as (0.5A)^100/20. A(1/2)^100/20 means A*(1/2)^100/20, ie A doesn't have the exponent.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah thats starting to make sense

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(a/2)^5 would make more sense

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but wait i still get the same aswer

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

That still doesn't look right...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or no i shouldnt actually

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Man why is this so difficult lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

suri, any ideas?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

\[\huge A= A_o \left( \frac{ 1 }{2 } \right) ^ {t/r}\] is this the equation in the book?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

B.ii) is the question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes identical

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OH wait so its 20/100???

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Well that's nothing like what you said earlier...A=A(initial amount)^(t/(half life rate)) is nothing like that.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no no its not 100/20 is correct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it is tho

OpenStudy (anonymous):

half life rate=r=20

OpenStudy (anonymous):

t=100

OpenStudy (anonymous):

A=intitial amount

OpenStudy (anonymous):

A(1/2) to the exponent of 100 over 20

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Those are two completely diff equations... the first is A=A(initial amount)^(t/(half life rate)) or \[\huge A = (A_o)^{t/r}\] this is the one i just posted\[\huge A= A_o \left( \frac{ 1 }{2 } \right) ^ {t/r} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh sorry that was my mistake.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The second one is the one I'm talking about

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[A(1/2)^5 \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I need the derivative of that

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

This is why you gotta try learning to use the equation editor... hand written equations don't read well. \[\huge A= A_o \left( \frac{ 1 }{2 } \right) ^ {t/r} \] looks like you'll have to differentiate this then. Post it as a new question, this is way too long now. And running too slow.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k thx

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

and medals help too :P @unprovoked

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have tried twice every time sight crashes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[assume that x _{0}be the initial mass and x be the mass after time t.\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Then rate of decay of substance \[\frac{ dx }{dt }\alpha x or \frac{ dx }{dt }=kx\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

separating the variables and integrating \[\int\limits \frac{ dx }{x }=\int\limits k dt or \ln x=kt+c\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when t=0, \[x=x _{0}\] \[\ln x _{0}=0+c\]

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