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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Studying for an exam and I need help through a few problems, help?

OpenStudy (owlcoffee):

Okay, I'll help you out.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you! The first thing I need some help with is calculating the limit algebraically

OpenStudy (owlcoffee):

Okay so we have: \[\lim_{x \rightarrow -4}\frac{ 3x ^{2}+10x-8 }{ x ^{2}-16 }\] First off, let's look at it. yeah, if I replace, i would have 0 on the denominator, and we couldn't go any further. Let's see if we can factor it so it doesn't bother us much. Aha! it's a square difference. Let's apply that: \[\lim_{x \rightarrow -4}\frac{ 3x ^{2}+10x-8 }{ (x+4)(x-4) }\] Good... Now... Let's see if we can factor that equation on the numerator... How would you do that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Factored out it would be (3x-2)(x+4) right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Then (x+4) cancels out and just plug in 4 which gives me 7/4

OpenStudy (owlcoffee):

Good!, so it'll look like this: \[\lim_{x \rightarrow -4}\frac{ (3x-2)(x+4) }{ (x+4)(x-4) }\] look at that! we can simplify the (x+4). Ending up with: \[\lim_{x \rightarrow -4}\frac{ (3x-2) }{ (x-4) }\] If we apply the limite, it looks like this: \[\frac{ 3(-4)-2 }{ (-4)-4 }=\frac{ -18 }{ -8 }=\frac{ 18 }{ 8 }\] Voilá!

OpenStudy (owlcoffee):

Whoops! I missed out that 3(-4)-2 = -14 @terenzreignz Thank you ^^"

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

@Naavidya was way ahead of me, with her answer: 7/4 though. :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, I was trying to figure out how to get past the denominator issue ^^* The next one deals with rationalizing and I'm not sure how to start

OpenStudy (owlcoffee):

@terenzreignz Can you help her? I'm very tired, it's 2:00 here :P

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

@Naavidya The keyword is 'conjugate' :)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Ever heard of it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is it the opposite of an equation or something like that?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Sort of. I just imagine it as 'changing the sign' between the 'normal part' and the 'weird part' That's a very rough way to put it, but I only put it like that because you'll encounter the word conjugate again sometime in the future, maybe with complex numbers, etc, and its basically the same thing... ANYWAY What I like to call the 'weird part' here is the par t inside the square root, namely, \(\Large \sqrt{7x-5}\) and the 'normal part' is the one outside, the \(\Large 4\) and they're separated by a minus sign.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do we rationalize the function by multiplying the conjugate?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Multiplying both the numerator and denominator by the conjugate, yes :) Keeping this in mind, of course: \[\Large \left[\sqrt P +Q\right]\left[\sqrt P - Q\right]= P - Q^2\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ x-3 }{ \sqrt{7x-5}-4 }\times \frac{ \sqrt{7x-5}+4 }{ \sqrt{7x-5}+4 }\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yes... very good :)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Don't stop now, you're doing great :D Just simplify, using that thing I reminded you with (the P Q thing)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So multiplied out it should be \[\frac{ x \sqrt{7x-5}+4x-3\sqrt{7x-5}-12 }{ 7x-5-16+4\sqrt{7x-5}-4\sqrt{7x-5} }\] And then cancel out?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

I suggest you don't multiply the numerator through, leave it in its factored form ;) \[\Large (x-3)\left(\sqrt{7x-5}+4\right)\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

But do simplify the denominator :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So the denominator would be \[7x-21\] after simplifying?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

That's good :) \[\Large \frac{(x-3)\left(\sqrt{7x-5}+4\right)}{7x-21}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And to avoid the 0 in the denominator we factor out 7 and then cancel out the top and bottom?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

\[\Large \frac{(x-3)\left(\sqrt{7x-5}+4\right)}{7(x-3)}\] You seem eager :) \[\Large \frac{\cancel{(x-3)}\left(\sqrt{7x-5}+4\right)}{7\cancel{(x-3)}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I just catch on quickly :D And just plug in 3?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

If it doesn't result in anything ugly, such as 0/0, why not? ^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And that give 8/7 ?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Brilliant :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The 3rd one kinda has me confused on what to even do

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Why don't you simplify the numerator? :)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

IE expand, and simplify

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

It actually kinda is :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh, it just ends up being -6+t which equals -6 ^^*

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yup :) And the last one... possibly the easiest or the hardest, depending on how you look at it...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, I'm clueless again...

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Any gut feel?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I feel that the limit doesn't exist but I'm not sure how to explain

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

It doesn't :D And here's why... when x goes to 2 from the left, 2 > x meaning 2-x > 0 Means |2-x| = 2-x right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, right

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

But... when x goes to 2 from the right, we get 2 < x 2-x < 0 |2-x| = -(2-x) right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, got it

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

So, from the left, our function is effectively \[\Large \frac{2-x}{|2-x|}= \frac{2-x}{2-x}\] approaching 1, right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Right

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

But from the right, since |2-x| = -(2-x) if x approaches from the right, we effectively get \[\Large \frac{2-x}{|2-x|}= \frac{2-x}{-(2-x)}\] approaching -1.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So it doesn't exist because they're not the same?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yup :) From the left, the function is (actually constantly) equal to 1 But from the right, the function is (also constantly) equal to -1

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Since they don't 'collide' (lol) the limit doesn't exist XD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, now I get why XD

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

@Naavidya so that about wraps it up, I hope?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yup, thanks for the help :)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

No problem. You seem ready for that test :D

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