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OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have a question about math derivatives...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I actually have 5 questions on the same thing, just different setups. But how would I go about solving them? .-. 1. Derive the equation of the parabola with a focus at (−5, −5) and a directrix of y = 7 2. Derive the equation of the parabola with a focus at (6, 2) and a directrix of y = 1 3. Derive the equation of the parabola with a focus at (−5, 5) and a directrix of y = -1. 4. Derive the equation of the parabola with a focus at (0, −4) and a directrix of y = 4 5. Derive the equation of the parabola with a focus at (−2, 4) and a directrix of y = 6. Put the equation in standard form.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If I can get assistance through one, I'm sure I can do the rest on my own (maybe)

OpenStudy (john_es):

The equation of a parabola with focus in (h,k+p) and directrix y=k-p, is, \[(x-h)^2=4p(y-k)\]In the first case, \[h=-5\\ k+p=-5\\y=k-p=7\]Combining the last two relations, k=1,p=-6. So the equation of the parabola is, \[(x+5)^2=-24(y-1)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I understand a bit but not really. That also doesn't match any of the answer choices I have.. (thanks for replying)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I can only assume that it's actually f(x) = −1/24(x + 5)2 + 1 (which is what I chose in the beginning)

OpenStudy (john_es):

You can expand the formula to obtain the standard form \[x^2+25+10x=-24y+24\Rightarrow y=-\frac{1}{24}(x^2+10x+1)\]

OpenStudy (john_es):

I think the form you cited, \[y=-\frac{1}{24}(x+5)^2+1\] is the vertex form, but you can deduce from the one I gave you, simply remember y=f(x) and then, \[(x+5)^2=-24(f(x)-1)\Rightarrow -\frac{1}{24}(x+5)^2=f(x)-1\Rightarrow\\\Rightarrow f(x)=-\frac{1}{24}(x+5)^2+1\] Do you understand it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Kind of.... Unless you're busy, could you help me work through the rest? (it's only 5) or at least the second one. I understand a little how you transfer it, but not how you got it to begin with

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I only have one question, question 5 that's in standard form

OpenStudy (john_es):

Oh, then was my mistake! I think they need to be expressed all in standard form, sorry.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

all of the answer choices for each question have the same layout, though. it just looks really complex to me

OpenStudy (john_es):

Wll, with the second one, and all the others, you must follow this steps. (1) Identify the focus, \[ (h,k+p) =(6,2)\Rightarrow h=6\ \ \text{and} \ \ k+p=2 \](2) Identify the directrix, \[y=k-p=1\](3)Find the valus k and p solving the system you get before, \[k+p=2\\ k-p=1\]Solving this, you have k=3/2 and p=1/2.(4) Susbtitute the obtained values in the equation, \[(x-h)^2=4p(y-k)\]In this case, \[(x-6)^2=4\cdot\frac{1}{2}\cdot\left(y-\frac{3}{2} \right)\]Solving for y, \[(x-6)^2=2\cdot\left(y-\frac{3}{2} \right)\Rightarrow \frac{1}{2}(x-6)^2+\frac{3}{2}=y\]

OpenStudy (john_es):

Do you understand the four steps?

OpenStudy (john_es):

And how to apply to the rest?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I understood it up until step 4. working with question 3, according to your steps.. step 1: H= -5, K+P = 5? step 2: y=k−p=-1 step 3: k+p = 5, k-p = -1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right?

OpenStudy (john_es):

Perfect. Now solve the system, \[k+p=5\\ k-p=-1\]Simply, adding the equations, \[(k+p)+(k-p)=5-1\Rightarrow 2k=4\Rightarrow k=2\]Then susbtitute this value in one of the equations above, for example, \[k+p=5\Rightarrow2+p=5\Rightarrow p=3\] Do you understand it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I understand it goes from 5-1... what I don't see is the "2k=4" :O Unless it's just an obvious thing... like 3k would equal 6. (looking at it, 5-1=4 so is that how you got it?) K = 2, okay.. (because that's half of 4?)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm trying to make sure I know this 100%, lol, sorry. I have a call right after this and I'm going to be questioned on it

OpenStudy (john_es):

You sum the part from the left, \[(k+p)+(k-p)=k+k+p-p=2k+0=2k\] Do you understand this step?

OpenStudy (john_es):

And this sum always gives 2k the only number that changes is the part of the right (in this case 5-1=4)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep, understand that! Wouldn't that be the same for each question, though? Since there's only one set of "k+p, k-p" for each question

OpenStudy (john_es):

Exact!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha yeah :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so, taking that k+p or k-p determines that "2k=__"

OpenStudy (john_es):

Then only part that changes is the right member. Well, I have to go, but I give you the answer I obtained in order you can check it, (3) \[y=\frac{1}{12}(x+5)^2+2\] (4) \[y=-\frac{1}{16}(x)^2\] (5) \[y=-\frac{1}{4}(x+2)^2+5\] This last, in standard form is, \[y=-\frac{x^2}{4}-\frac{x}{2}+5\] I hope they are ok. And good luck!!

OpenStudy (john_es):

Yes, 2k=5-1, that is 2k=4, so solving this, \[2k=4\Rightarrow k=4/2=2\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Darn. Thanks a lot, though!

OpenStudy (john_es):

;) Sure here a lot of people will help if you need something more.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'll try to work on 4 and post my work here. how long will you be gone? #5 is the only different problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

question 4: step 1: H=0, K+P = -4 step 2: y=k−p=-4 step 3: k+p = -4, k-p = 4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it is the locus of a point s.t its distance from a fixed point called focus=distance from a fixed line called directrix. |dw:1380201311577:dw|

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