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OpenStudy (anonymous):

What are the possible number of positive real, negative real, and complex zeros of f(x) = -7x^4 - 12x^3 + 9x^2 - 17x + 3?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Positive Real: 3 or 1 Negative Real: 1 Complex: 2 or 0 Positive Real: 3 or 1 Negative Real: 2 or 0 Complex: 1 Positive Real: 1 Negative Real: 3 or 1 Complex: 2 or 0 Positive Real: 4, 2 or 0 Negative Real: 1 Complex: 0 or 1 or 3 @DebbieG :P I don't understand 100% how to solve these and get these types of answers

OpenStudy (debbieg):

Oh, this is that theorem about the number of sign changes, right? Does that sound familiar?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The signs changing.... I know two theories about the signs changing

OpenStudy (debbieg):

Descartes rule....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well, yeah

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know of it but it's difficult, imo, to work with

OpenStudy (debbieg):

First, look at f(x), and count the number of times that the SIGN of the COEFFICIENTS changes. \(\large f(x) = \color{red}-7x^4 \color{red}- 12x^3 \color{blue}+ 9x^2 \color{red}- 17x \color{blue}+ 3?\)

OpenStudy (debbieg):

There are 3 sign changes.... so this is the "positive case". So there are a max of 3 real, positive roots.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh, that's what that means? I thought that had something to do with solving the problem..

OpenStudy (debbieg):

You don't have solve it, just have to find out how many real positive, real negative, and complex roots there could be. So 4 max positive reals, but you "count down" by 2's: so there could be 4, 2, or 0 real positive roots.

OpenStudy (debbieg):

be right back...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is it 3 or 4? o.o I have an answer choice of both.. (I see what you're getting at, though. Thanks for helping me understand better)

OpenStudy (debbieg):

Oh, sorry - there are 3 sign changes, so we count down by 2's: either 3 or 1 real, positive roots.

OpenStudy (debbieg):

Now to find max number of real negative roots, we look at the same thing, but for f(-x): \(\large f(-x) = \color{}-7(-x)^4 \color{}- 12(-x)^3 \color{}+ 9(-x)^2 \color{}- 17(-x) \color{}+ 3 \\\large=\color{red}-7x^4 \color{blue}+ 12x^3 \color{blue}+ 9x^2 \color{blue}+ 17x \color{blue}+ 3\) So only 1 sign change, which means a maximum of 1 real, negative root

OpenStudy (debbieg):

so 3 or 1 real positive roots, and 1 real negative root. Keeping in mind that complex roots come in pairs (do you understand what I mean by that?), and that this is a 4th degree polynomial so has 4 total roots (including repeated roots). Soooooo putting it all together means that we have: 3 positive real and 1 negative real (and 0 complex) OR 1 positive real, 1 negative real and 2 complex those are the only possibilities.

OpenStudy (debbieg):

Here is what's WRONG with all of the other options: Positive Real: 3 or 1 Negative Real: 2 or 0 Complex: 1 Can't have 1 complex root - they come in pairs! Positive Real: 1 Negative Real: 3 or 1 Complex: 2 or 0 Max of 1 negative real root, so 3 negative real is not possible Positive Real: 4, 2 or 0 Negative Real: 1 Complex: 0 or 1 or 3 Max of 3 positive real roots, so can't have 4; and also can't have 1 or 3 complex - they come in pairs! :)

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