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OpenStudy (anonymous):

part a Two rock climbers, Jim and Karen, use safety ropes of simi-lar length. Karen's rope is more elastic, called a dynamic rope by climbers. Jim has a static rope, not recommended for safety purposes in pro climbing. Karen falls freely about 2.0 m and then the rope stops her over a distance of 1.0 m. (Figure 1) Part A Estimate how large a force (assume constant) she will feel from the rope. Express the result in multiples of her weight. Express your answer using two significant figures. F =

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Part B In a similar fall, Jim's rope stretches by only 30 cm. How many times his weight will the rope pull on him? Express your answer using two significant figures. F =

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@agent0smith

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Karen falls freely about 2.0 m use this to find the velocity before the rope starts to slow her... \[\Large v_f ^2= v_i ^2 + 2 a \Delta x\] her inital velocity must be zero, a is gravity.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got 2.. can you check that please

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

2 what...? Units are important.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

2 is not correct.. but i don't even know what 2 is... velocity? force?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2N or is it -2N

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry about that

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

First, her velocity would be 6.261 m/s. Then find her acceleration when the rope is slowing her, and use that to find force... which we can't, since we don't know her mass...??

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Oh it's just in multiples of her weight

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes i got that answer, and then plugged it in the same formula to find a= 19.62m/s2

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Correct.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then i took that a and divided it by 9.81m/s2 and got an answer of 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2N

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

So it'd be 2 times her weight, then.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

NOT 2 newtons.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh then what would the units be?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

2 times her weight. Or 2W i guess. It won't really have units, since the weight W has units of N, but 2W is just a ratio.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

"Express your answer using two significant figures."

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it would be 2.0, i dont know why but something seems wrong

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Why? 2 times her weight would be ~980N if she had a mass 50kg.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its wrong

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

The net force on her will be 2W.... but that's not the force from the rope |dw:1380331274305:dw| The force from the rope is T... which will be 3W This might've been why the last question was wrong too... we forgot that it's only the NET force causing acceleration... the upward force has to also account for the weight, like the weight of the torso in the last problem.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

In the last problem, the NET force decelerates the torso, but there's also the reaction force on the torso, which is just supporting the weight of the torso.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got dont understand would you just add 1 to it then?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Solve the equation on the picture for T.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

would i do 2W = T - W T - 3W ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

T= 3W

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Yes, T=3W

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay i got that, now i got 6.657 times his weight for part b i suspect that this is wrong too

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we can complete this in another question spot if you want, if its getting to messy here

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Okay. That one is basically the same as a anyway, with diff numbers. Open a new question

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