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OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Running into trouble while differentiating an improper integral...

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Live preview's not working... can't see how my latex is showing up..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The method of dierentiation under the integral sign, due originally to Leibniz, concerns integrals depending on a parameter, such as R 1 0 x 2 e tx dx. Here t is the extra parameter. (Since x is the variable of integration, x is not a parameter.) In general, we might write such an integral as (1.1) Z b a f(x; t) dx;

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Ok it's back.. So, let \[f(t)\]be a continuous function such that \[\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} t*|f(t)|dt\]exists and is finite.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Let\[g(x)=\int_{x}^{\infty}(t-x)*f(t)*dt\]find g'(x) and g"(x). So for g'(x) i have..

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

\[g'(x) = \frac{d}{dx}(\int_{x}^{\infty}(t-x)*f(t)*dt)=\frac{d}{dx}(\int_{x}^{0}(t-x)f(t)dt+\int_{0}^{\infty}(t-x)f(t)dt)\].. Sorry slow tex typer..

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Then I did the following: \[g'(x)=\frac{d}{dx}(\int_{x}^{0}t*f(t)dt)-\frac{d}{dx}(\int_{x}^{0}x*f(t)dt)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i see no error yet.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Sorry page crashed on me.. and finally..

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Using the fundamental theorem of calc on these, I got: \[0-x*f(x)*1 - \frac{d}{dx}(x*\int_{x}^{0}f(t)*dt)=-x*f(x)-(1*\int_{x}^{0}f(t)dt \space + \space x*f(x))\]

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Which finally is: \[-2x*f(x)-\int_{x}^{0}f(t)dt\] So is this the answer?

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

I wasn't really expecting to see an integral in the end, so could I be doing something wrong?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

no

OpenStudy (zarkon):

there is an integral in the end

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Ok, thanks, can you just double check the steps?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

start with ... \[g(x)=\int_{x}^{\infty}(t-x)*f(t)*dt\] \[=\int_{x}^{\infty}t*f(t)*dt-\int_{x}^{\infty}x*f(t)*dt\] \[=\int_{x}^{\infty}t*f(t)*dt-x\int_{x}^{\infty}f(t)*dt\] now differentiate

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

That's actually how i did it, was just trying to skip some steps because typing in latex is a bit of a pain. So what I got after that step was: \[\frac{d}{dx}(\int_{x}^{0} t*f(t)*dt+\int_{0}^{\infty} t*f(t)*dt)-\frac{d}{dx}(\int_{x}^{0}x*f(t)*dt+\int_{0}^{\infty}x*f(t)*dt)\]

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

After that I end up with: \[\frac{d}{dx}(\int_{x}^{0}t*f(t)*dt \space )-\frac{d}{dx}(\int_{x}^{0}x*f(t)*dt \space )\]

OpenStudy (zarkon):

no

OpenStudy (zarkon):

what about the \[\int\limits_{0}^{\infty}x\cdot f(t)dt\]

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Finally, sorry i crashed.. Oh you're right..

OpenStudy (zarkon):

\[\frac{d}{dx}\left(\int\limits_{x}^{0}tf(t)dt \right )-\frac{d}{dx}\left(\int\limits_{x}^{0}xf(t)dt +\int\limits_{0}^{\infty}xf(t)dt\right )\]

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

yea, sorry I forgot about the product rule in that one.

OpenStudy (zarkon):

yep... \[\frac{d}{dx}\left(\int\limits_{x}^{0}tf(t)dt \right )-\frac{d}{dx}\left(x\int\limits_{x}^{0}f(t)dt +x\int\limits_{0}^{\infty}f(t)dt\right )\]

OpenStudy (zarkon):

you made a small mistake

OpenStudy (zarkon):

yes

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

\[-x*f(x)-(x*(-f(x))+1*\int_{x}^{0}f(t)*dt)-(x*0+\int_{0}^{\infty}f(t)*dt)\]

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Gonna delete the other response, otherwise will get confused when writing this down lol, thanks.

OpenStudy (zarkon):

so what is your final answer?

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

\[=0-\int_{x}^{0}f(t)*dt-\int_0^\infty f(t)*dt=-\int_x^\infty f(t)*dt\]

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Is that correct?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

that's it

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Wow.. thanks Zarkon. Never thought I'd have to do math again... getting rusty.

OpenStudy (zarkon):

no problem

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Will have a bunch more questions in a few more minutes probably, meanwhile gonna find the 2nd derivative of this thing, that one should be much easier.

OpenStudy (zarkon):

yep...should be ;)

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