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OpenStudy (anonymous):

can anyone help me look at the following question? Please find attached. Thanks

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

jeez i can't

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Actually, I would like to discuss this question with you. Can? For this piecewise function to be differentiable, it must be continuous on the domain of R

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you take the derivative of the top expression you get \[2x\cos(\frac{1}{x})+\sin(\frac{1}{x})\] if i am not mistaken that oscillates wildly when you are close to zero, so i can't imagine how you are going to make the derivative exist at 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And for the derivative at x = 0 and x=pi exist, the limit of the derivative must exist as well....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, so you really have two conditions continuity and the derivatives must meet up as well

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yah......

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just want to check and confirm if my a,b,c,d are correct values or not

OpenStudy (anonymous):

contiuity at x = 0 and pi exist. the left hand continuity = the right hand continuity

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well we have with continuity two things \[d=0\] from the first one and \[a\pi^2+b\pi^2+c\pi=0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oops i meant \(a\pi^3+b\pi^2+c\pi=0\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes. i agree. I get c = 0 as well

OpenStudy (anonymous):

from the derivative?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

from the limit of derivative

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[2a\pi^2+2b\pi+c=1\] is what i get

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well except that it is wrong, should be \(-1\)

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

don't you just evaluate the piecewise function?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you lost me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

use the above formula. but for this limit to exist, left hand limit must be equal to right hand limit

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when x approaches pi and 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is the fancy way to do it the derivative of sine is cosine, \(\cos(\pi)=-1\) so you have to get \(-1\) from the middle one

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but i am still trying to figure out what you are going to do with \[2x\cos(\frac{1}{x})+\sin(\frac{1}{x})\] because there is no way i can see to make this work at \(0\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you can use the squeeze theorem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for the case of cos(1/x). for cos funciton, cos is always bound to [-1.1]. so 2x*cos(1/x) is bound to [-2x.2x]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that part is not the problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the limit of 2x and -2x when x goes to 0 is 0, so by squeeze theorem, the limit of 2x*cos(1/x) when x approaches 0 is 0 as well

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

at 0 no limit exists

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is the problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it exists. by squeeze theorem. you may check it out . squeeze theorem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

derivative oscillates infinitely often between \(-1\) and \(1\) as you approach 0 from the left

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what you are saying is that \[\lim_{x\to 0^-}x^2\cos(\frac{1}{x})=0\] and i certainly agree with that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay. so what is next. still havent find the values of a and b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no theorem necessary as cosine is stuck between -1 and 1 what i am saying is, this beast is not differentiable at \(x=0\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if it was you would match up the derivatives and see what you get but it isn't i can't think of any way you are going to make it differentiable at 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if at x = 0, the attached formula. the left hand limit == right hand limit. then f is differentiable at 0. that is why we need to find the values of a and b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but your problem is you cannot compute that limit, because \(f(0)\) does not exist

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you can define f(0) to be 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lets look at the picture http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2x*cos%281%2Fx%29%2Bsin%281%2Fx%29+domain+-.2..0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

anyway, I need someone to help me solve the problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok @nincompoop will get it i am sure

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks!

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

I am getting the hang of using wolframalpha lol. but my school uses maple, so I start getting the syntax of the two mixed up

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is a piecewise function. so you shouldn't just look at one single function only

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