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OpenStudy (loser66):

A linear system is consistent iff there are free variables in the row-echelon form of the corresponding augmented matrix. True or false? give a counterexample if it's false Please, help

OpenStudy (amistre64):

hmm, a free variable represents at least a row of zeros ...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

can form parallel lines, and augment?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

3 5 | 7 9 17 | 7 how does that pan out?

OpenStudy (loser66):

I am sorry, the wolfram is for ... what?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

5*3 = 15, not 17 in the previous post :)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

it shows the rref of the augmenting of the system of parallel lines

OpenStudy (amistre64):

we have a free variable denoted by the 2nd coumn

OpenStudy (loser66):

is that a counterexample?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

does it meet the criteria?

OpenStudy (loser66):

yup, I am with you then

OpenStudy (amistre64):

good :)

OpenStudy (loser66):

but the system \[\left[\begin{matrix}1&2\\3&1\end{matrix}\right]\]has no free variable is consists still, so the statement is not true, right?

OpenStudy (loser66):

@amistre64

OpenStudy (amistre64):

A linear system is consistent -if and only if- there are free variables in the row-echelon form of the corresponding augmented matrix. we showed that a system of parallel lines (therefore not consistent) has a free variable in the rref augmented form.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

an iff statement is true "both ways" so the hypothesis-conclusion setup can be reversed and still has to hold true

OpenStudy (amistre64):

A iff B if A, then B and if B, then A otherwise, false

OpenStudy (loser66):

I got you for the way we prove iff, if A , then B but from if B , then A, I give a counter example above to say that " not just only B, there is a C can get A" . Is it not the way to prove?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

unless im reading you incorrectly, you seem to be trying to insert and extra part into the setup that does not exist to begin with. There is no room for an inclusion of C into the setup.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i am alive, iff, i am breathing if, i am breathing; then, i am alive. if, i am alive; then, i am breathing. including a third component is not needed to express the validity of the statement.

OpenStudy (loser66):

I am sorry, I am too worry for my test, I try to see the problem in many aspects to completely understand it. I got you , just focus on if A then B and if B then A. That's it

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the simplest counter-example is just as effective as the most complex ;)

OpenStudy (loser66):

I am distracted by "only"

OpenStudy (loser66):

to me, it means only B satisfy A, so counter example is not just only B. XD

OpenStudy (amistre64):

:) yeah, its not refering to a closed system of happenstances. It just focusing on the necessary relationship between the given events.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

most definitions are of the form iff. It is a stronger relationship than the one directional if,then construction

OpenStudy (loser66):

Thanks for explanation.

OpenStudy (loser66):

I got it.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

good luck ;)

OpenStudy (loser66):

ty

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