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OpenStudy (hba):
Calculus 2 help.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
So \(r\) and \(d\) are constant with respect to \(x\) and \(y\), right?
OpenStudy (hba):
Yeah
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[
\frac{dy}{d\theta}=\frac{dy}{dx}\frac{dx}{d\theta}
\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
You can use this to solve for \(dy/dx\).
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Any tangent line \(T\) is given by \[
T-y(x_0) = \frac{dy}{dx}(x_0)(x-x_0)
\]
OpenStudy (hba):
so dy/dx=r+dsin(theetha)/r-dcos(theeta)
OpenStudy (hba):
Didn't get your last point about the tangent line :/
OpenStudy (anonymous):
The tangent line \(y\) of a function \(f(x)\) at the point \((x_0,f(x_0))\) is: \[
y-f(x_0)=f'(x_0)(x-x_0)
\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Same concept, but different variables.
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OpenStudy (hba):
^ something new for me :/
OpenStudy (anonymous):
It's calculus 1.
OpenStudy (hba):
y-y1=m(x-x1) That? :/
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yes, but \(m=y'(x)\)
OpenStudy (hba):
Yeah right.
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OpenStudy (hba):
What next?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
First is finding \(dy/dx\)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
You didn't get it right the first time.
OpenStudy (hba):
This is wrong
dy/dx=r+dsin(theetha)/r-dcos(theeta)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yes, that is wrong.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
You said \(r\) and \(d\) are constants.
OpenStudy (hba):
Confused :/
OpenStudy (anonymous):
What is\[
\frac{dy}{d\theta}
\]
OpenStudy (hba):
r+dSin(theetha)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
No
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
That is wrong.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Thing about it.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
You said \(r\) is a constant.
What is \[
\frac{dr}{d\theta }
\]
OpenStudy (hba):
I don't know.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Derivative of a constant is \(0\).
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OpenStudy (hba):
But it with x na? :/
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[
y=r-d\cos \theta
\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[
\frac{dy}{d\theta}=d\sin \theta
\]
OpenStudy (hba):
oh yeah :/
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[
x=r\theta - d\sin\theta
\]\[
\frac{dx}{d\theta }=r-d\cos \theta
\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[
\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{d\sin\theta}{r-d\cos\theta }
\]
OpenStudy (hba):
Okay now.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Okay never mind, it only wants the slope of the tangent line, not the tangent line itself. So we're good at \(dy/dx\).
OpenStudy (hba):
Yes but what about b part.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
To have a vertical tangent, then you'd need \[
r-d\cos\theta=0
\]Since the slope would be undefined at that point.
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OpenStudy (hba):
So no vertical tangent :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Well, if \(d<r\) then \[
\forall \theta \quad d\cos\theta < r
\]So there is no way for it to reach \(0\).
OpenStudy (anonymous):
A more formal proof\[\begin{split}
r &>d\geq d\cos\theta \\
r&> d\cos\theta\\
r- d\cos\theta &> 0
\end{split}\]