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OpenStudy (wolfe8):

Help with picture.

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

Help me set up the problem please.

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

@John_ES maybe?

OpenStudy (john_es):

Doyou know Lagrangian equations?

OpenStudy (john_es):

Anyways, I put here the solution obtaind with Lagrange equations of motion, \[L=T-U=\frac{1}{2}m(\dot{x}^2+\dot{y}^2)+8(x^2+4y^2)\] \[\frac{d}{dt}\left(\frac{\partial L}{\partial x}\right)-\frac{\partial L}{\partial x}=0\\ \frac{d}{dt}\left(\frac{\partial L}{\partial y}\right)-\frac{\partial L}{\partial y}=0\] \[\ddot{x}+\frac{16}{m}x=0\Rightarrow x=A_1\cos(\omega_1t+\phi_1)\] \[\ddot{y}+\frac{64}{m}y=0\Rightarrow y=A_2\cos(\omega_2t+\phi_2)\] Where, \[\omega_1=2\sqrt{2}\\ \omega_2=4\sqrt{2}\] Then you only need to apply the initial conditions to find the A's and phi's.

OpenStudy (john_es):

Also the path is closed, because, \[\omega_2/\omega_1=2\] is an entire number (it will be closed if it is a rational number, in general). I attach you the picture.

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

Ohhhh I see now. Gosh these things are never simple anymore. Thanks John! I do have a few more I'm a bit stuck with. :/

OpenStudy (john_es):

Post them, and we'll see if it is possible to solve them.

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

I'm really sorry but I think I am doing the initial conditions wrong. I am thinking of using t=0 in the x equation but that doesn't really give me A nor phi. Should I use r0 and v0 in the homogeneous equations instead? I am confused.

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