Help with adding rational expressions?
So the first thing I did was factor b^2 + 5b + 4 which was (b+4)(b+ 1) That was my least common denominator so I had to get b/b+1 and 7/b+4 to that so I multiplied b/b+1 by b + 4 to get b(b + 4)/(b + 4)(b + 1) and then I multiplied 7/b+4 by b + 1 to get 7(b + 1)/(b + 4)(b + 1)..not sure where to go from there? What I have -3 b(b + 4) 7(b + 1) _____________ + _____________ = ______________ (b + 4)(b + 1) (b + 4)(b + 1) (b + 4)(b + 1) Now what?
now notice that the common denominator gets cancelled, like a/b=c/b gives a=c in same way, a/b+c/b=d/b gives a+c = d got this ?
Not really..that's confusing for me
ok, when denominators are common, we combine the numerator , \(\Large \dfrac{☺}{♥}+\dfrac{♦}{♥}=\dfrac{☺+♦}{♥}\) right ? so what about your left side ? what will it become ?
So it will become b^2 + b/(b+4(b+1) sorry about the wait, OS wouldn't load so I had to switch to IE
it would not load for me too! and then numerator of left side is just -3+b(b+4) since denominator's are common, we can equate the numerators, so can u solve -3+b(b+4) = 7(b+1) for b?q
ohh now we solve I get it, one sec
you'll have to solve a quadratic in b :)
could u get 2 values of b ?
Hartnn, you have the funniest explanations.
I've been trying to do it but it's not really working for me :/
I got b^2 - 7b = 6
-3+b(b+4) = 7(b+1) -3+b^2+4b = 7b+7 b^2+4b-7b = 7+3 got this ?
Ohh, I didn't multiply 4 by b..okay I got that..what ahappened to the 7b on the left? and how come it's 7 + 3??
-3+b^2+4b = 7b+7 Add 3 on both sides, and subtract 7b from both sides. b^2+4b-7b = 7+3
see whether you get the quadratic equation as b^2-3b-10-0
ohhh okay
i meant b^2-3b-10=0 can you solve it ? and did you get this on your own too ?
Hmm b^2-3b-10=0 + 10 on both sides? b^2-3b = 10 add 3b to both sides? b^2 = 3b + 10 sqrt both sides? b = sqrt 3b + 10?
why !? ok, can you tell me 2 numbers whose sum is -3 and product is -10 ?
-5 and 2, or -2 and 5?
-2 and 5 will not give u -3 so, -5 and 2 it is! so we split -3x = -5x+2x x^2-5x+2x-10=0 can you factor out x from 1st 2 terms and 2 from last 2 ? what would u get ?
x(x - 5) + 2(x -5)?
correct! now factor out x-5 from both terms :)
so...x + 2?
or by factor out you mean make them back to what we had before?
here are the steps, have a look \(x(x-5)+2(x-5)=0 \\ (x-5)(x+2)=0 \\ x-5 =0 \: or \:x+2=0\) so what are the 2 values of x we get ?
x = 5 or x = -2?
yes, thats your final answer! :) ask if any doubt in any step :)
Can I show you the steps and then you tell me if I wrote them down correctly? I have more of these and I want to see if I can do them with the method we used before I come back
ofcourse! i will verify each step, and will tell if you missed any step :)
Okay! thanks! So first we had -3 b 7 ______________ + ______ = ______ b^2 + 5b + 4 b + 1 b + 4 then we factored the first one into (the least common demoninator) -3 ______________ (b + 4)(b + 1) and we need the rest to have l multipled the second one by (b + 4) and the third one by (b + 1) so now we had -3 b(b + 4) 7(b + 1) ______________ + ______________ = ____________ (b + 4)(b + 1) (b + 4)(b + 1) (b + 4)(b + 1) and after thatwe had -3 + b(b + 4) = 7(b + 1) -3 + b^2 + 4b = 7b + 7 +3 on both sides b^2 + 4b = 7b + 10 -7b on both sides b^2 - 3b = 10 -10on both sides b^2 - 3b - 10 = 0 factored the left side b(b - 5) + 2(b - 5) <--confused about this and on since we had x instead and we had (x + 2)?
-3 b(b + 4) 7(b + 1) ______________ + ______________ = ____________ (b + 4)(b + 1) (b + 4)(b + 1) (b + 4)(b + 1) and after thatwe had ***ADD a step here, -3+ b(b + 4) 7(b + 1) ___________ = ____________ (b + 4)(b + 1) (b + 4)(b + 1) **** -3 + b(b + 4) = 7(b + 1) ... b^2 - 3b - 10 = 0 b^2-5b +2b -10=0 basically just replace x by 'b'
b^2 - 3b - 10 = 0 b^2-5b +2b -10=0 b(b-5)+2(b-5)=0 (b-5)(b+2)=0 b-5=0 or b+2=0 b=5 or b=-2 b=5,-2
I don't understand where the (b + 2) came in though, did you just take the b that was outside of (b - 5) and the +2 outside of the other (b - 5)?
exactly! its like \(\Large \alpha (stuff)+\beta(stuff)= (\alpha +\beta)(stuff) \)
here, stuff = x-5
thats called as factoring
ooh okay, I'm going to write it down in my book , thanks hartnn!
welcome ^_^
Wait one question, for the answer do I need to include the numbers that b cannot be in the original equations to keep them from being 0 in the demoninator?
yes, sometimes domain is explicitly asked, but even if its not asked, its good to write it, so mention that which values b cannot take, can you find them ?
b couldn't be - and -4?
-1*
correct! :) and your reason is also correct, denominator cannot be 0 . good!
Awesome! Thank you!!
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