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OpenStudy (anonymous):

If a general function is...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Let \[f^{n}(a)\] denote the nth derivative of f at a. If \[f(x) = \ln(2x^{2} +x -1)-\ln(x+1), \] then \[f^{98}(\frac{1}{2}+\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}) =? \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I did \[\ln \frac{ 2x^{2}+x-1 }{ x+1 }\]

hartnn (hartnn):

the numerator is factorable

hartnn (hartnn):

you'll just get the form ln (ax+b)

hartnn (hartnn):

and you know its n'th derivative ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

to take derivative I use product rule and chain rule. \[\ln \frac{ (x-1)(2x-1) }{ x-1 }\]

hartnn (hartnn):

why not simply cancel out x-1 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This becomes \[\ln(2x-1)\] derivative = \[\frac{1}{2x-1}*\frac{d}{dx}(2x-1)\]

hartnn (hartnn):

yes, do you know the n'th derivative formula or have been taught ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I guess you keep taking the derivative until you see a pattern? or is there another way @hartnn

hartnn (hartnn):

yes, same thing.

hartnn (hartnn):

see i you get this pattern \(\huge \dfrac{(-1)^{n-1}(n-1)!a^n}{(ax+b)^n}\) for ln |ax+b|

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm. how could I see that.

hartnn (hartnn):

1st derivative = 2/ (2x-1) 2nd derivative = - 2^2 / (2x-1)^2 so , there will be alternate + and - signs, (-1)^n-1 will account for that every time 2 will get multiplied, 2^n will account or that denominator is quite obvious

hartnn (hartnn):

i suggest you take that formula for ln |ax+b| as standard and memorize it...there won't be enough time to derive it everytime...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That's right..I need to practice find these patterns,,,,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the general formula in my case is \[\frac{ -1^{n-1}(n-1)! 2^{n} }{ (2x-1)^{n} }\]

hartnn (hartnn):

yes, just plug in n=98 x = 1/2 +1/sqrt 2

hartnn (hartnn):

2x-1 is just sqrt 2

hartnn (hartnn):

-97! * 2^49 is what i get, did u get same ?

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