One ml of original bacterial culture is put into 199 ml of water in bottle x. What is the final dilution in bottle x?
Dilution = 1 ml of sample / (1 ml of sample + x ml of buffer) here, buffer is water with 199 ml so, dilution = 1/ (1+199) = ... ?
i was never good with biology but this seems pretty simple. It really is just a math equation.
200 is that it
actually, 1/200
.005
yes, 0.005 or 5 * 10^-3
If 1 ml from bottle x in problem 2 is placed into 199 ml of water in bottle y, what is final dilution in Bottle y
i am not sure about this, but i think we just multiply the 2 dilutions to get final dilution, that is, (1/200) * (1/(1+199)) = 1/ (200*200)
are we talking about dilution factor?
then it is reversed
you're doing a concentration factor at the moment
A student make 1:10000 dilution of bacteria and puts 0.1 ml of this into I petri plate with medium. Te next day, there are 72 colonies growing on the plate. What is the cfu/ml of the original bacterial culture?
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so let us begin with 1 mL + 99 mL = 100 mL dilution factor = 100 mL / 1 mL the mL cancels out, and you are left with 100. therefore, the dilution factor (DF) is 1:100 dilution (10^2) concentration factor = 1 mL / 100 mL again, the mL cancels out, and you are left with 1/100. therefore, the concentration factor (CF) is 0.01 or 10^-2
this was your original problem. I was just pointing out that you were doing concentration factor with the solution you had. the dilution factor is the opposite or reciprocal DF = final volume / aliquot volume where your final volume is aliquot + diluent aliquot is a portion of the original sample. diluent is the material that is used to dilute the sample
CF = aliquot volume / final volume
What about the third question I posted about the students plates
okay it says A student make 1:10000 dilution of bacteria and puts 0.1 ml of this into I petri plate with medium. Te next day, there are 72 colonies growing on the plate. What is the cfu/ml of the original bacterial culture? if our dilution is 1:10,000 it must mean that our original sample was 1mL, and that the diluent was 9,999 mL
but it is asking you for CF, right?
CF = aliquot / final volume
Yes cfu/ml
how would you solve that based on ALL of the information I've given you?
if you have answer choices list them and I will explain
Is the answer 720000
how did you get that?
I need the solution and logic behind it
Bacause we were taught cfu/ ml iequal # of colonies times dilution factor
is your answer part of choices?
No
colonies * DF = 27 * 10^4 = 2.7 x 10^5 CFU per mL of bacteria
my bad, you put 72 … LOL so it is 7.2 x 10^5
OMG I went dyslexic for a second, my apologies
Ok help with one more please
How much water do you need to make a 1:10 dilutions using 3 ml of your original bacterial culture.
but I am doubtful it is straightforward as that. because the amount that was put in the petri dish was 0.1 mL not 1 mL
But they don't ask for the dilution factor
0.1 mL is equivalent to 100,000 or 10^5 dilution factor
your dilution factor will dictate your CFU so you need to be careful
you essentially have 100,000 DF * 72 = 7,200,000 or 7.2 x 10^6
Ok what about the last question can you help me with that
I don't think you understand it
this is why I am hesitant to proceed with the other problem
I do I got it thanks
if you truly understand it, then you should be able to solve the next question
Is it 1/10 times 3 / 100
Tat is a start
How much water do you need to make a 1:10 dilutions using 3 ml of your original bacterial culture. how about 3:30 = 1:10 see how it works?
Okay
you have 3 mL and you are looking for 1:10 DF the definition of DF again is what?
Dilution factor
well you just gave me what DF stands for… what is the formula?
1 / dilution and volume
1/ dv
final volume / aliquot = (aliquot + diluent) / aliquot (3 + x) / 3 = 10
3 plus 30
3 + 30 = 33 33/3 ≠ 10
30
I put 30
(3 + x) / 3 = 10 multiply both sides by 3, you get \[3\times \frac{ 3+x }{ 3 }=10\times3\]
27 plus 3
there you go
that means you would add 27 mL of diluent to a 3 mL of aliquot of the sample in order to make a 1:10 dilution
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i hope I won't be seeing you ask the same type of questions again :P
http://inst.bact.wisc.edu/inst/index.php?module=book&type=user&func=displayarticle&art_id=103 you will use dilution and concentration in both biology and chemistry so it is important you learn it well.
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