Find the absolute maximums and minimums of f on the given closed interval and state where these values occur. f(x) = sinx-cosx
The closed interval is 0,pi
I can't do it manually but bu graphing it on a ti-84 between 0 and pi I get max y of 1.4142136 @ x of 2.3561932 and min y of -1 at x of 0.
Did you use a graphing calculator?
yes also, you may recognize the 1.414 ar sqrt2
Alright well thanks for helping. You've got the best response so far :)
is that a calc 1 question?
AP Calc AB yeah
write as a single function of sine, then it will be much easier
sinx = cosx ? ?
take the derivative, set = 0 ,
well taking the derivative of the original equation, 0 = cosx + sinx
\[a\sin(x)+b\cos(x)=\sqrt{a^2+b^2}\sin(x+\theta)\] where \[\cos(\theta)=\frac{a}{\sqrt{a^2+b^2}}, \sin(\theta)=\frac{b}{\sqrt{a^2+b^2}}\]
divide by cos x
in your case \(a=1,b=-1\) and so it is \[\sqrt{2}\sin(x-\frac{\pi}{4})\]
0=sinx/cosx = tanx
then no calc needed you see the answer from your eyeballs
0 = cosx + sinx 0= 1 + tan x
true sat, but he's taking an AP calc test
the largest \[\sqrt2\sin(x-\frac{\pi}{4})\] can be is \(\sqrt{2}\) and the min is \(-\sqrt{2}\)
true, but isn't is more obvious by symmetry that the largest \(\sin(x)-\cos(x)\) it can be is if \(\sin(x)=-\cos(x)\) ?
sat, I am a little confused. What did you do after you found the derivative.
i never found the derivative i used the identity \[\sin(x)-\cos(x)=\sqrt2\sin(x-\frac{\pi}{4})\]
the amplitude is \(\sqrt{2}\) so that is the max
Ok i see the problem, and maybe it is because my teacher does it slightly diffferent. How did you get sqrt2sin(x-pi/4)
i gotta run, but i wrote all the steps for finding it above
I'll look above. Thanks for the help
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just in case you want to use calc: d (sinx-cosx) = cos x + sin x = 0 1 + tan x = 0 tan x = -1 x = 135º and 315º (or 3pi/4 and -pi/4 ) in the interval 0 to pi, we only have 3pi/4 sin 3pi/4 = sqr(2)/2 cos 3pi/4 = - sqr(2)/2 sin - cos = sqr(2) to find the min, test the boundaries 0 and pi for the min value
So that's where the sqrt2 came from. This looks more like what my teacher was showing me. I like this explanation better thank you.
sat did not use calculus... more a trig approach. It is a technique people often use when solving differential equations.
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