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OpenStudy (anonymous):

need help to explain this correctly step by step

OpenStudy (anonymous):

need help to explain this correctly step by step justify each step, and explain how the solution is extraneous. √x + 4 = x- 2 x = 0 Extraneous Solution no solutions

OpenStudy (anonymous):

please I'm desperate need of help this just practice for my exam, i just want to be familiar on how to explain stuff like this

OpenStudy (phi):

is it \[ \sqrt{x+4}= x-2 \] ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no the equation is solved i just need to explain properly how to solve and what makes it extraneous

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i tried to explain it but apparently i was wrong

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i want help because this is my review and i need to learn how to explain this for my final exam

OpenStudy (phi):

What is the original problem? √x + 4 = x- 2 means \[ \sqrt{x} + 4 = x -2 \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

√x + 4 = x- 2 x = 0 Extraneous Solution no solutions

OpenStudy (phi):

so only the x is inside the square root ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

idk i just need to explain step by step what you do

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ik its extraneous because it has no solutions right

OpenStudy (phi):

to solve the equation, you have to be clear what equation you are talking about. which problem are you solving: \[ \sqrt{x} + 4 = x -2 \] or \[ \sqrt{x+ 4} = x -2 \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the second one

OpenStudy (phi):

good. now before solving it, let's just test if x=0 works. start with \[ \sqrt{x+4} = x-2\] replace x with 0, and simplify. what do you get ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm sorry i don't completely get this stuff

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you would add to both sides correct

OpenStudy (phi):

we are going to "test" if x=0 works. everywhere you see x, erase it, and write 0 in its place in \[ \sqrt{x+4}= x - 2\] can you do that ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

√0 + 4 = 0- 2

OpenStudy (phi):

and what is 0+4 ? and 0-2 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

4 and -2

OpenStudy (phi):

so you now have \[ \sqrt{4} = - 2 \] when solving radical equations, you only take the POSITIVE square root on the right side you get the positive square root of 4 or 2 = -2 which is not correct. That shows that x=0 is not a true solution. got that part ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes that makes sense

OpenStudy (phi):

now, let's "solve" \[ \sqrt{x+4}= x- 2 \] to "get rid of" the square root, square both sides of the equation can you do that ? what do you get ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

16 and 4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so √x + 16 = x-4

OpenStudy (phi):

if you just had a single number, you could do that. But "square" means "multiply by itself" If you have a complicated thing, it is still "complicated thing" times "complicated thing" to square both sides, you multiply each side by itself: \[ ( \sqrt{x+4} )^2= (x- 2)^2 \\ \sqrt{x+4} \cdot \sqrt{x+4} = (x-2)(x-2) \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i see

OpenStudy (phi):

on the left side, you should learn that square root times itself "undoes" the square root example \[ \sqrt{A+B}\cdot \sqrt{A+B} = A+B\]

OpenStudy (phi):

what do you get after simplifying the left side ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x+ 8 if thats the left side

OpenStudy (phi):

almost. all you do is "drop" the square root sign examples: \[ \sqrt{4}\cdot \sqrt{4}= 4 \\ \sqrt{3x+y}\cdot \sqrt{3x+y}= 3x+y \\ \sqrt{z^2+77}\cdot \sqrt{z^2+77}= z^2+77 \] and so on. try again

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol I'm sorry where did the 3 come from

OpenStudy (anonymous):

√4 . √4 = 8

OpenStudy (phi):

\[\sqrt{x+4} \cdot \sqrt{x+4} = (x-2)(x-2) \] can you simplify the left side ?

OpenStudy (phi):

and no, √4 . √4 is not 8

OpenStudy (anonymous):

16?

OpenStudy (phi):

you can't ignore the x in \( \sqrt{x+4} \) look back at my post up above, with the examples. Look for the pattern.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

√x+ √x+4=(x−2)(x−2)

OpenStudy (phi):

Look at these examples \[\sqrt{4}\cdot \sqrt{4}= 4 \\ \sqrt{3x+y}\cdot \sqrt{3x+y}= 3x+y \\ \sqrt{z^2+77}\cdot \sqrt{z^2+77}= z^2+77 \] can you use the same pattern to simplify \[ \sqrt{x+4} \cdot \sqrt{x+4} \]?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm sorry i don't understand this part

OpenStudy (phi):

the idea is that \[ \sqrt{A} \cdot \sqrt{A} = A \] when you multiply a square root by itself, you get rid of the square root so if you multiply \[ \sqrt{stuff}\cdot \sqrt{stuff} = stuff\] can you use that idea on \[ \sqrt{x+4} \cdot \sqrt{x+4} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (phi):

what do you get ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

√4 . √4 = 256 or √4 . √4 = 16

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