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OpenStudy (christos):

Could you please help me out on this ? https://www.dropbox.com/s/ruoy47iufbzvb5y/Screenshot%202013-11-02%2005.04.25.jpg

OpenStudy (christos):

@Callisto

OpenStudy (christos):

@e.mccormick

OpenStudy (christos):

@agent0smith

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

To find time of max height, use \[\Large v_f = v_i + g t\]

OpenStudy (christos):

bit what's the g here ?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

gravity. -9.8m/s^2

OpenStudy (christos):

omfg. thanks

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

lol no prob!

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

I teach AP physics so this crap is very familiar to me.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Do you need more help...?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

teachers say crap???!!!!

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Yes, i've also yelled at my classes to shutup, and i use crap frequently "this side of the equation is equal to all that crap over there" "After simplifying all this crap..." etc. It's simple, kids understand it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

they are lucky... my teacher gets mad if i say dang it o.o

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

yeah i'm not the most strict of teachers haha...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wow

OpenStudy (christos):

oh sorry I was ark for a while ! Yes ! it seems that b is asking me for the max height

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

You know the time, now use\[\Large h = \frac{ 1 }{ 2 }g t^2\] for h

OpenStudy (christos):

I have the solution in front of me but, I don't really understand the process so, it makes no good for me

OpenStudy (christos):

ok

OpenStudy (christos):

ok and what I find off of this is the maximum height ?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

height FROM the cliff top.

OpenStudy (christos):

It says "What is the maximum height measured from the edge of the cliff ? "

OpenStudy (christos):

yes, so ?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Yes that's what the h is.

OpenStudy (christos):

hm so I solved (b) with this one equation ?

OpenStudy (christos):

for c it has to be something with time again

OpenStudy (christos):

aaah !

OpenStudy (christos):

V = v0 + gt for c right ?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

You know the time for it to reach the top. Now find the time from top to bottom, using this equation again \[\Large h = \frac{ 1 }{ 2 }g t^2\] but this time, plug in h as the TOTAL height from top of flight, to ground. Solve for t.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Then add those times together. That equation you gave won't work, you don't know it's final velocity

OpenStudy (christos):

oh by the way, this is the solution to part (b) and it seems that I am not having the same result as the one in the paper, He used a somewhat longer method for it

OpenStudy (christos):

no no I got it correct, my bad

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

h=0.5gt^2 will work for the height from the cliff.

OpenStudy (christos):

That's the solution I have for © https://www.dropbox.com/s/7hulr1lwfgw2i72/Screenshot%202013-11-02%2006.12.54.jpg seems that the solution has 2 roots

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

You can do it that way. The way i show above makes it easier.

OpenStudy (christos):

ok but , how can I get 2 roots with the easy way ?

OpenStudy (christos):

apparently there are 2 possible results right ?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

why would you want 2? one is a non-realistic time, a negative time. h is the total height from top of flight to bottom where it lands in the equation above. Then add the time taken to reach the top

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Make the work easier by NOT having to use the quadratic formula - that's why i showed you the way i did.

OpenStudy (christos):

\[t = \sqrt {2h/g} \]

OpenStudy (christos):

for c ?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Yep, don't forget to add the time for it to reach the top - the t you have there just gives top to bottom.

OpenStudy (christos):

1.221 + 12/9.8 =2.445

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

shouldn't there have been a square root...? and where'd 12 come from?

OpenStudy (christos):

12/9.8 is the t I found from a

OpenStudy (christos):

and I calculated the square root to 1.221

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

1.221 can't be right then. sqrt(2h/9.8) has to be bigger than 1.2. Your max height needs to be AT LEAST 75, since it's 75+whatever height it was above the cliff.

OpenStudy (christos):

h = 7.3 right ?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

how can h be 7.3? h is the height above the cliff, plus 75. h is the height of the object at it's highest point, all the way to the ground.

OpenStudy (christos):

so 7.3 + 75 = 82.300

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

That looks better.

OpenStudy (christos):

I like my result :D

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

:D

OpenStudy (christos):

c has to be Vmax

OpenStudy (christos):

the question is, which t to use for V=v0 + gt

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

For what, ground impact velocity? Use total time.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

i gotta go, if you need help i'll be back later or tomorrow.

OpenStudy (christos):

ok man, a million thanks for your help , be well !

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