Need some help with this limit:
\[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty} \frac{ \ln (x ^{2}+x)-\ln (x ^{2}-3x+2) }{ e ^{\frac{ x+1 }{ x ^{2} }}-e ^{\frac{ 1 }{ x }} }\]
I'm thinking l'hopital's is prolly gonna help.. But we can prolly simplify this too..
I was told to not use L'hopital :(
simplification it is!... ln(A/B)=lnA-lnB
It appears to approach 0.
Uhm let's see.. Idk how far I'll get with this: let's just focus on the top \[ln(x^2+x)-ln(x^2-3x+2)=ln(\frac{x(x+1)}{(x-1)(x-2)})\]
The denominator is just e^(1/x^2)) which approaches 1 as x approaches infinity.
The numerator is what bahrom7893 has...and that clearly approaches ln(1) = 0...so you have 0/1 = 0
Actually the bottom approaches 0, no?
no. 1/x^2 approaches 0, but e^0 approaches 1.
\[e^{(x+1)/x^2}\] that is \[e^0\] as x goes to infinity
e^0 - e^0 = 0
\[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}\frac{ \ln (\frac{ x ^{2}+x }{ x ^{2}-3x+2 }) }{ e ^{\frac{ 1 }{ x }}(e ^{\frac{ x+1 }{ x ^{2} }-\frac{ 1 }{ x }}-1) }\]
Exacuse me, but the denominator is equivalent to just e^(1/x^2)) which approaches 1 as x approaches infinity.
I don't see why though?
Look at the original problem...that expression in the denominator is equivalent to e^(1/x^2)) by using the law of exponents, e^x/e^y = e^(x-y) ..use it backwards.
Dude it's a minus
(x+1)/x^2 - 1/x
You can't use the law of exponents there..
I think it would be a good idea to take as common factor e^1/x
Yes, you can..by rewriting it as one exponent!
\[\huge{e ^{\frac{ x+1 }{ x ^{2} }}-e ^{\frac{ 1 }{ x }}}\]IS NOT \[\huge{e ^{\frac{ x+1 }{ x ^{2} }-\frac{ 1 }{ x }}}\]
oh, no no, I agree but I took it as common factor, not substracting it.
Nah i'm just pointing out why the bottom approaches 0, not 1
hmm taking ln is useless and so is raising to the e..... gah we need to figure out what top approaches..
top is gonna approach 0
the fraction inside ln is going to 1..
Sorry...my error for the denominator.
oh man this is so ideal for l'hopital..... darn it. Np, i thought i was missing something too.
You factored the polynomials inside the Ln?
Can't the first expression in the denominator be facored out by e^(1/x)?
yea i did but it didn't really help, and neither did factoring out e^(1/x).. this isn't even calc at this point, it's just algebra..
Actually factor it out, yea
Isnt it e^(1/x) { e^(1/x^2) + 1}
no it's not. there's a minus in the original
lol too tired to think right now..
So e^(1/x) was factored out with a - instead of our +
I have an idea, I'll work on the denominator: \[e ^{\frac{ 1 }{ x }}(e ^{\frac{ x+1 }{ x ^{2} }-\frac{ 1 }{ x }}-1)\] I know that there's a equivalent: \[e ^{F(x)}-1= f(x)\] \[f(x)\rightarrow0\] so it would be: \[e ^{\frac{ 1 }{ x }}(\frac{ x+1 }{ x ^{2} }-\frac{ 1 }{ x })\] wich is much easier to operate.
btw the answer is -infinity
I see, so it's -infinity and not 0 ?
Since I made an error in the denominator, I would have to go back to the drawing board. But bahrom7893 says it is - infinity. Although I would like to through that again.
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