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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Using Descartes' rule of signs, how many sign changes are there in the function: h(x)=4x^4-5x^3+2x^2-x+5 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

are 6 positive real roots possible? how many total roots must there be in this fourth-degree function?

hero (hero):

Review this: http://www.mathwords.com/d/descartes_rule_of_signs.htm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so according to that link, i got that there are 4 sign changes in this function... is that correct?

hero (hero):

Yes, correct.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks :) so for "how many total roots must there be in this fourth-degree function" would that also be 4?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay :) would that mean that there are 6 positive real roots that are possible?

hero (hero):

Well, actually let me clarify. There must be 4 roots since the highest degree is 4.

hero (hero):

But for positive zeroes, there can't be more than 4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh i see, that makes sense!

hero (hero):

You can have either zero, two, or four positive roots.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

would zero, two, or four positive roots be possible real roots?

hero (hero):

Yes, exactly.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If it isn't too much to ask, can you help me understand what this is asking me to do? This is the third and fourth part of this same question, but I am so confused!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hero (hero):

Remember, when in doubt, graph the function. It will tell you how many zeroes for sure.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

finding how many zeros there are will help me to find the number of possible negative real roots?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

by replacing every x with (-x) would the new function be: 4(-x)^4-5(-x)^3+2(-x)^2-(-x)+5 causing there to be 1 sign change?

hero (hero):

Yes. When you input f(-x) and count the sign changes, it will tell you the number of possible negative zeroes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when i input that function it keeps telling me that it is an incomplete input

hero (hero):

Just compute f(-x) manually (by hand-pencil and paper) then count the number of sign changes to get the number of possible negative zeroes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i keep getting 1, is that correct?

hero (hero):

Graphing will give you the total actual number of zeroes, but not the total "possible zeroes".

hero (hero):

Assuming you did it correctly: f(-x) = 4(-x)^4-5(-x)^3+2(-x)^2-(-x)+5 Results in 4x^4 + 5x^3 + 2x^2 + x + 5 So no negative roots possible.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so in the new function there are also no sign changes?

hero (hero):

What do you mean "also".

hero (hero):

You got 4 sign changes for f(x) and 0 sign changes for f(-x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the other question was "how many sign changes are there in the new function"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry, thats what i meant! there are 0 sign changes for f(-x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in this new function of f(-x) would there be 0 possible complex roots since there are 0 possible roots and 0 sign changes?

hero (hero):

I'm not really too pleased with your teacher calling f(-x) the "new function". f(x) is the function of interest. We're trying to figure out the possible real roots and negative roots of f(x). Finding f(-x) is just a strategy used to find the number of negative roots of f(x).

hero (hero):

So far there are 4, or 2, or 0 positive roots. Zero negative roots. Which means there are 2 or 4 or 6 complex roots.

hero (hero):

By graphing, we can figure out exactly how many roots.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh wow, that's not too good to hear, thats the way I have been learning!

hero (hero):

Well, review this: http://www.purplemath.com/modules/drofsign.htm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you so much for ALL of your help! I really appreciate it! :)

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