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OpenStudy (nincompoop):

find the slope of the tangent line

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

to the parabola y=4x - x^2 at the point (1, 3) using \[m=\lim_{x \rightarrow a}\frac{ f(x)-f(a) }{ x-a }\] and \[m=\lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{ f(a+h)-f(a) }{ h }\] then find an equation of the tangent line.

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

for @shamil98 only!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can i?

OpenStudy (shamil98):

No idea .

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol jk

OpenStudy (shamil98):

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OpenStudy (kenljw):

The tangent to a curve at a point is the 1st derivative at that point

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

and your point is?

OpenStudy (kenljw):

y=4x - x^2 dy/dx = 4 - 2x y = (dy/dx) x + b place the values of the point into equation and solve

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

I don't like those ugly dy/dx notations

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Neither do I, I'm an old school y' er.

OpenStudy (kenljw):

The were developed in the foundation of Calculus

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

not elegant for my taste

OpenStudy (kenljw):

I understand your development but why reinvent the wheel

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

the foundation of calculus did not use dy/dx i doubt the early greeks nor the early egyptians used it

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

I guess my point is that I've given the definition to which the slope of the tangent line will be solved, and yet you two insisted on using dy/dx

OpenStudy (rsadhvika):

Your both definitions are one and same. you can jump from first definition to second definition by substituting x-a = h so i think finding the slope by using one definition will do

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

you're missing the point >.< too

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

I bet you three are the Einstein of your country... but we're dealing with future Richard Feynman here

OpenStudy (rsadhvika):

yes whats the point :o

OpenStudy (rsadhvika):

im just feeling dumb right now lol

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

laughing out loud

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

\[y=-x^2+4x @(1,3); m=\lim_{x \rightarrow a}\frac{ f(x)-f(a) }{ x-a }\] \[m=\lim_{x \rightarrow a}\frac{ -x^2+4x-[-(1)^2+4(1)] }{ x-1 }\] \[m=\lim_{x \rightarrow a}\frac{ x^2+4x-3 }{ x-1 }\rightarrow m=\lim_{x \rightarrow a}\frac{ (-x + 3)(x-1)}{ x-1 }\] \[m=\lim_{x \rightarrow a}-x+3=-(1)+3=2\]

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

some textbooks refer to that definition as the "alternate-form"

OpenStudy (rsadhvika):

we're taught h->0 definition i guess. but the second one is not that hard to *see* once u digest the first def

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

that is the second part @rsadhvika

OpenStudy (rsadhvika):

^ I see your point now :)

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

because later on that h will turn into delta x

OpenStudy (rsadhvika):

ohk i get it completely. basically you want to go through it step by step + slow --- so you see everything; Nice :)

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

\[y=-x^2+4x@(1,3);m=\lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{ f(a+h)-f(a) }{ h }\] \[m=\lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{ [-(a+h)^2+4(a+h)]-[-(1)^2+4(1)]) }{ h }\]\[m=\lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{ -(1)^2-2(1)h-h^2+4(1)+4h-3 }{ h }\rightarrow \frac{ h^2+2h }{ h }\] \[m=\lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{ -h(h-2) }{ h }\rightarrow m=\lim_{h \rightarrow 0}-1(0-2)=2\]

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

the tangent line to y=f(x) at (a, f(a)) is the line through (a, f(a)) whose slope is equal to f'(a), the derivative of f at a \[f'(a)=2; y-f(a)=f'(a)(x-a)\] \[y-3=f'(a)(x-1)\rightarrow y-3=2x-2\rightarrow y=2x+1\]

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