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OpenStudy (karatechopper):

How to factor this? 4x^4n+2 -28x^2n+1y^3n + 49y^6n

OpenStudy (shamil98):

Take the gcf first

OpenStudy (karatechopper):

There isn't one... just 1

OpenStudy (shamil98):

Everything is multiplied by n

OpenStudy (shamil98):

except 2

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

\(4x^4n+2 -28x^2n+1y^3n + 49y^6n\) or are the ns part of the exponents?

OpenStudy (karatechopper):

Right but..how would you pull that out?

OpenStudy (karatechopper):

n is also a part of the exponents @e.mccormick

OpenStudy (shamil98):

Oh, that makes it a bit more complicated..

OpenStudy (karatechopper):

You see, I was taught that you solve the same way just replace with you know the whole x y whatever like a normal trinomial. Then at the end you divide the exponents by two..I don't get it lol

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

\(4x^{4n}+2 -28x^{2n}+1y^{3n} + 49y^{6n}\) ??

OpenStudy (karatechopper):

that +2 is a part of the exponent as well

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Let me guess. The +2 is in an exponent too.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

4x^{4n+2} -28x^{2n}+1y^{3n} + 49y^{6n}

OpenStudy (karatechopper):

yes.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

\(4x^{4n+2} -28x^{2n}+1y^{3n} + 49y^{6n}\)

OpenStudy (karatechopper):

wait

OpenStudy (shamil98):

\[4x^{4n+2}-28^{2n}+y^{3n} + 49y^{6n}\]

OpenStudy (shamil98):

that?

OpenStudy (karatechopper):

that y^3n is attached to -28x^3n

OpenStudy (karatechopper):

but that y is not the exponent.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

oh. \[4x^{4n+2}-28^{2n}y^{3n}+49y^{6n}\] this?

OpenStudy (karatechopper):

yesss

OpenStudy (shamil98):

Alright, let's take the gcf of the factors after the 4x^(4n+2) then... \[4x^{4n+2}-28^{2n}y^{3n}+49y^{6n}\] \[4x^{4n+2}7y^{3n}(-4^{2n}+7^{3n})\] not sure if taking the ^3n is allowed but this is what i got.

OpenStudy (karatechopper):

how..

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Did you forget a - there?

OpenStudy (shamil98):

the -1? you could take it out making (4n^2n - 7^3n) i think ... .-.

OpenStudy (karatechopper):

Uh..

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

\(4x^{4n+2}-7y^{3n}(4^{2n}-7y^{3n})\) was what I meant.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

yeah you could do that.

OpenStudy (karatechopper):

But then are you factoring from there?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

I think we lost part of the original.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

mick , you attached the y^3n .. to the 7, i thought it was factored out.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

\(4x^{4n+2} -28x^{2n+1}y^{3n} + 49y^{6n}\) Now it will make more sense.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

oh.

OpenStudy (karatechopper):

I'm completely lost..

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

When we "fixed" the way it looked, we had lost a +1 in on of the exponents. That is critical. \(4x^{4n+2} -28x^{2n+1}y^{3n} + 49y^{6n} \implies \) \(4x^{2(2n+1)} -7 y^{3n}(4x^{2n+1} + 7y^{3n}\)

OpenStudy (shamil98):

Yeah. dunno how you write in latex so fast >.> it takes me forever.

hero (hero):

@e.mccormick is some kind of \(\LaTeX\) master. That's why he types so faset.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Bah, forgot the sign change! LOL \(4x^{4n+2} -28x^{2n+1}y^{3n} + 49y^{6n}\implies \) \(4x^{2(2n+1)} -7 y^{3n}(4x^{2n+1} - 7y^{3n}) \implies \) \(4x^{2n+1}x^2 -7 y^{3n}(4x^{2n+1} - 7y^{3n}) \implies \) \((x^2 -1)(4x^{2n+1} + 7y^{3n}) \)

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Cause I type it rather than use the editor.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

Was about to write that, but the Latex God , did it before me haha lol.

hero (hero):

\((x^2 - 1)\) can be factored further

OpenStudy (shamil98):

Yeah, (x+1)(x-1)

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Yep. Now, KC, you get what was done there? Too much confusion with what it was at the start... but now I thing it can be explained.

OpenStudy (karatechopper):

I uh..uhm. er.

OpenStudy (karatechopper):

Would you like to see how I solved it?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

OK

OpenStudy (karatechopper):

Er well actually I have to go somewhere, so I can't. Its alright I will get help from my dad later. Thank you all for helping!

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Hehe. Kk.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Aaargh! I was looking at it, and something seemed wrong... it is a perfect square trinomial!

hero (hero):

Yep, that's what I saw as well, but I didn't say anything because I figured you knew what you're doing so who am I to argue.

OpenStudy (karatechopper):

Lol I figured out how to do it on my own no problem :)

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