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OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Matrices question

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hi, where are you stuck at, or do you have no idea where to start?

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Well, I have no idea, My teacher hasn't shown us what do with this type of problem

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

We have used cramer's rule before but not like this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok ^_^ no problem can you find the determinant? if not I can show ya

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@DarkBlueChocobo ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This problem only takes one step to solve, I just worked it out. all we need to do is take the determinant, and you'll see what the answer is

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

I know how to work in like a normal matrix but I have not done this before o_o where do you start?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

^_^ soo, inorder to solve this matrix, we need to get all the non-variable terms to one side. see how the second equatoin is already in this form? we need to get the top equation so the x and y terms are the only thing on that side. this is the first thing when working with a matrix, we want to make it 'square'

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

\[4x+y=6? \] and then the other one is alright as is because all the variables are on the same side

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep with a negative ^_^ 4x + y = -6 now we have 4x + y = -6 8x+2y = 9 so can you put this into matrix form?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'll do the first one as a hint.. [ 4 1 ] [ ? ? ]

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

8 2?

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

and then -6 9?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

correct, so here is what our square matrix for cramer's rule looks like. its only the coefficients of the x and y terms. [ 4 1 ] [ 8 2 ] the -6 and 9 are used later in the process, but not yet. so we need to take the determinant of our matrix. remember it's the down hill - the up hill of the matrix, can you do this? or I can show you

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

it would be 8-8=0

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

would it be that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep ^_^

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

o:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the determinant equals zero, or D=0 cramer's rule only works when \[D \neq 0\]

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

so no solution then

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so, that is why your professor gave you this question w/o teaching you how to do cramers rule. he gave it to you to understand D can = 0 to use cramers rule.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no solution would have been my first guess. but D = 0 just means you have to solve this system with a method you have previously learned. either elimination or substitution.

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

o goodness ._.

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

This seriously is just blegh ._. So much solving just to get to a point where you have to do more solving

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha, i thought you'd like that answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol, fortunatly cramer's rule is that last of the methods to teach you how to solve systems of equations.

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

lol well the points given for the answer filled in don't work out so

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

no solutions it is

OpenStudy (anonymous):

^_^ see, you are smart and can solve quickly! no solution is correct

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Can you help me out with 2 more like this that i am assuming you have to do fully because no solution is no option lol

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

I believe I can figure it it out mostly since you explained it to me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya, put them up and message me or what ever and I can just check ur work

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

\[6x+y=2\] \[-3x+2y=1\]

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

6 1 and -3 2 so 6*2 - 1*-3 12+3

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

so 15?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry, helping other people at the same time. yep 15 is right, so D=15 can you find the determinant for D_x?

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

How do you find that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so we had this one, right: |dw:1383766709822:dw| now if we are solving for D_x, or the determinant of X, we replace the x column with the column made from the = side, so it looks like this: |dw:1383766795627:dw|

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