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OpenStudy (anonymous):

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hartnn (hartnn):

do you now the definition of derivative as a limit ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not off hand no, i missed the lecture on this specifically

hartnn (hartnn):

\(\large f'(x) = \lim \limits_{h \to 0}\frac{ f(x+h)-f(x) }{ h }\)

hartnn (hartnn):

so, since f(x+y) = f(x) f(y) what will be f(x+h) =...?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah confused there since its not given.. if fx+y is f(x)*f(y) doesnt that leave the second part of the equation for f(x+h)?

hartnn (hartnn):

uhhh..? f(x+y) = f(x) f(y) put y= h in this what do u get ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhhhh f(x)*f(h) sorry

hartnn (hartnn):

yesss

hartnn (hartnn):

our numerator = f(x+h) - f(x) = f(x) f(h) - f(x) what gets factored out ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x^2

hartnn (hartnn):

i don't see x^2 anywhere :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

f(x)*f(h)-f(x) we are simplifying right?

hartnn (hartnn):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so cant we combine the two f(x)s?

hartnn (hartnn):

a*b - a = a (b-1) f(x)*f(h)-f(x) =...?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

f(x)[f(h)-f(x)] then, wow i was off base

hartnn (hartnn):

you mean f(x) [f(h) - 1] ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes sorry

hartnn (hartnn):

no problem, now lets wonder how do we get f(h) -1

hartnn (hartnn):

we have f(x) = 1+x g(x) put x= h here, what do u get ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1+h*g(x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

g(h)*

hartnn (hartnn):

yes so f(h) -1 =... ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

h*g(h)?

hartnn (hartnn):

correct!

hartnn (hartnn):

plug this in our limit formula what gets cancelled ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

f′(x)=limh→0 f(x+h)−f(x)h... so i'm plugging in h*g(h) for all the h's here?

hartnn (hartnn):

let me show you..

hartnn (hartnn):

\(\large f'(x) = \lim \limits_{h \to 0}\frac{ f(x+h)-f(x) }{ h } \\ \large \large f'(x) = \lim \limits_{h \to 0}\frac{ f(x)(f(h)-1) }{ h } \\ \large \large f'(x) = \lim \limits_{h \to 0}\frac{ f(x)[h g(h)] }{ h }\) can you now tell what gets cancelled ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

youre left with f(x)[g(h)]?

hartnn (hartnn):

correct! now since h is the variable here, as h-> 0 f(x) is the constant and can be pulled out of the limit \(\large f'(x) = \lim \limits_{h \to 0}\frac{ f(x+h)-f(x) }{ h } \\ \large \large f'(x) = \lim \limits_{h \to 0}\frac{ f(x)(f(h)-1) }{ h } \\ \large \large f'(x) = \lim \limits_{h \to 0}\frac{ f(x)[h g(h)] }{ h } \\ \large f'(x) = f(x) \lim \limits_{h \to 0 }g(h)\) got this step clearly ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so then we plug that back in?

hartnn (hartnn):

limit x(approaches 0) g(x)=1. put x= h here, what do u get ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

h(app. 0)g(h)=1

hartnn (hartnn):

so what is the value of the enlarged green part ? \( \large f'(x) = f(x) \huge \color {green }{\lim \limits_{h \to 0 }g(h)}\)

hartnn (hartnn):

and what remains finally ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1..?

hartnn (hartnn):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so that's it since we showed it was equal to 1 and the given for f(x) was 1, thus f'(x)= f(x)?

hartnn (hartnn):

yes, that limit = 1 so f'(x) = f(x) which was exactly what we needed to prove :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright cool i will look over this and write it down, thanks a lot

hartnn (hartnn):

welcome ^_^

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