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OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

Two calculus questions!:-)

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

Typing them

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

Let I[0] be the intesnity of sound at threshold of human hearing. The decibel level of a sound with intesnity I is given by\[dB=10\log_{10}(\frac{ I }{ I_{0} })\]. If the decibel ratings of two sounds differ by 2, how do the intesnities of the sound compare? Round to the nearest 10th

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

And I'll post the next one after this one is solved:-)

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

@eashy

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\bf dB_1=10\log\left(\frac{ I_1 }{ I_{o} }\right)\]\[\Large\bf dB_2=10\log\left(\frac{ I_2 }{ I_{o} }\right)\]\[\Large\bf dB_2-dB_1=2=10\log\left(\frac{ I_2 }{ I_{o} }\right)-10\log\left(\frac{I_1}{I_o}\right)\]Take a look at that a sec, does it make sense what I've done so far?

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

Makes sense

zepdrix (zepdrix):

`how do the intesnities of the sound compare?` Hmm so I think what they're asking for is.. hmm I think they want us to find:\[\Large\bf \frac{I_2}{I_1}\]That will tell us the ratio of the intensities, or how they compare to one another.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So we'll have to use some rule of logs and do some fancy stuff to figure this out.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So we have this equation:\[\Large\bf 2\quad=\quad 10\log\left(\frac{ I_2 }{ I_{o} }\right)-10\log\left(\frac{I_1}{I_o}\right)\]Let's start by dividing each side by 10,\[\Large\bf \frac{2}{10}\quad=\quad \log\left(\frac{ I_2 }{ I_{o} }\right)-\log\left(\frac{I_1}{I_o}\right)\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

A rule of logs:\[\Large\bf\color{#DD4747}{\log a-\log b\quad=\quad \log\left(\frac{a}{b}\right)}\]We can use this rule of logs to simplify the right side of our equation.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Looks a little ugly since we have fractions on fractions :) lol

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\bf \frac{2}{10}\quad=\quad \log\left[\frac{\left(\dfrac{I_2}{I_o}\right)}{\left(\dfrac{I_1}{I_o}\right)}\right]\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

hmm? :o

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

Nevermind :O Just keep working haha

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So when we divide fractions, there is another way we can rewrite that, yes? :o

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\bf \frac{a/b}{c/d}\quad=\quad \frac{a}{b}\cdot\frac{d}{c}\]We can flip the bottom fraction and write it as multiplication, sound familiar?

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

Hmm right

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

Since that is how you divide fractions :P

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So we've got something like this: \[\Large\bf \frac{2}{10}\quad=\quad \log\left[\left(\dfrac{I_2}{I_o}\right)\cdot\left(\dfrac{I_o}{I_1}\right)\right]\]Anddddd, looks like we have a nice cancellation at this point.

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

I got 1.6 for my answer.

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

Wait, so cancel out the I[0] and 2/10=log(I[2]*I[1])

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

And you are incredibly speedy with the equation typing

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\bf \frac{2}{10}\quad=\quad \log\left[\left(\dfrac{I_2}{\cancel{I_o}}\right)\cdot\left(\dfrac{\cancel{I_o}}{I_1}\right)\right]\]Gives us:\[\Large\bf \frac{2}{10}\quad=\quad \log\left(\dfrac{I_2}{I_1}\right)\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

XD

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

O sorry I actually meant / not *

zepdrix (zepdrix):

1.6? Mmmmmm yah that sounds right! I think we did everything correctly there, hopefully :)

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

Jesus, long problem! I think I have the answer to this one, so don't need to show work :P The temp of a hot liquid is 100 and the room temp is 70, the liquid cools to 93.9 in 6 minutes. What is the temp after 12 minutes?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So when sounds differ by 2 decibels, the intensity of the larger sound is 1.6 times as .. intense as the other sound :o

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

My answer: 88

zepdrix (zepdrix):

k sec :x checking

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

Posted that kind of question a few times and nobody knew :((

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Hmmm does require us to use Newton's Law of Cooling or something similar? :o Maybe it's simpler than that and I'm just not remembering heh

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

One last question since I actually skipped it.. http://gyazo.com/25c7718e7d1ce3a2b03edce6b9a5490a

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Look familiar? :o \[\Large\bf \frac{dT}{dt}\quad=\quad k(T_a-T)\]

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

Not at all!

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Mmm darn :( I'm not sure how to solve the temperature problem without using calculus stuff. Oh I guess I can at least check your answer of 88 though.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Mmmm yah I think you got it correctly! I came up with 89 degrees.

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

89?! O no! That was an option!

zepdrix (zepdrix):

D:

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

I'll take your word :-)

zepdrix (zepdrix):

That's funny, those numbers are so close together XD I didn't think they'd give you both of those options lol

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

Options: 88, 89, 87, 90

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

http://gyazo.com/25c7718e7d1ce3a2b03edce6b9a5490a So for that one, part C, I don't exactly understand how'd you get it to equal 75?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

I came up with 89.040.. I thinkkk I did it correctly. I tried to avoid rounding when possible. But you never no :p

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Well let's hold off on part C for a moment :P Your earlier parts look a little bonkers.. we should fix that that up first.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Can you accurately figure out what the `initial value` of the stock would be? V(0) = ? I know it's not one of the questions, but it should give you a good idea why your numbers are wayyyyyy off :D

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

1785.. right?:(

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\bf V(t)\quad=\quad 51(1-e^{-1.2t})+35\]Plugging in 0 for t,\[\Large\bf V(0)\quad=\quad 51(1-e^{-1.2\cdot0})+35\]Which simplifies the exponential to:\[\Large\bf=\quad 51(1-1)+35\]So what is the initial value of the stock? :x

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

I SEE WHAT IM DOING WRONG

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

IVE BEEN PUTTING 35 IN THE BRACKET

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Do you? XD oh good

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

So it's 1.3!

zepdrix (zepdrix):

the initial value? :o

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

Oh no, part C

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Grr stop worrying about part C +_+ You really need to fix part A first.

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

V(1)=70.64 V(12)=86 V'(t)=61.2e^(-1.2t) V(t)=75=1.3 lim-->infinity=86

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Mmmm ok good! They all look correct now! :)

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

I think last question

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

differentiate x(6.7)^x

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

Nevermind I got it! :-)

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\bf \left[x\;6.7^x\right]'\quad=\quad \color{#DD4747 }{(x)'}\;6.7^x+x\color{#DD4747 }{(6.7^x)'}\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Got it? K cool :x

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

(6.7^x+ln(6.7)*x*(6.7)^x

OpenStudy (lukecrayonz):

Thanks for all of your help!

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\c:/ np

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