how to solve this . I know how to get the inverse cos , but not the pi/2 . cos ( pi/2 + cos^-1 1/3 )
Start with the sum identity for cosine.
this one ey ? cos ( a+/-b) = cos A cos B +/- sin A sin B ) ?
yes
then , how abt the A and B ? from where can I take them ?
expand into\[\cos (\pi/2)\cos (\cos^{-1} (\frac{1}{3}))-\sin(\pi/2)\sin(\cos^{-1} (\frac{1}{3}))\]
The left side zeros out from the cosine, the left side leaves you with \[-\sin (\cos^{-1} (\frac{1}{3}))\]work that out with triangles
er... the right side I mean
i got\[\pi/6 - ( \sqrt{8}.\pi ) /6\]
not I
erm
cos (pi/2)=0\[-\sin(\cos^{-1} (\frac{1}{3}))=-2\sqrt{2}\]
hold it
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ok i got that triangle
Then the sine is opposite over hypotenuse... oops... root 8 over 3 which simplifies to 2root 2 over 3.... sorry.
okay ,
so the answer is \[-\sqrt{8}/6\] right ?
why over 6?
erm , i don't know . i'm not sure
because i multiply the sin \[\pi/2\times \sqrt{8}/ 3\]. like this
so when it is multiplied it become \[( \pi . \sqrt{8})/6\]
\[-\sin(\pi/2)\sin(\cos^{-1} (\frac{1}{3}))\]\[-1*\sin (\cos^{-1} (\frac{1}{3}))\]\[-\sqrt{8}/3\]\[- \frac{2\sqrt{2}}{3}\]
then i just cut of the \[\pi/6\] just like that
\[\sin (\pi/2)=1\]
There are no pi's in the answer because you take the sine or cosine of every angle leaving only a ratio.
okay thanks
can you just answer this one last question ?
We got scattered along the way, but the steps are... put your formula into the sum of cosines identity evaluate each sin and cos simplify sure, I can answer another
given \[\tan ( \sec ^-1 5/3 )\] , find (i) \[\tan ( x/2 )\] and (ii)\[\tan (x )\]
i got the triangle already
part ii is easiest from the triangle, find opposite over adjacent
The other require the identity for tan(x/2)
\[\tan(\frac{x}{2})=\frac{1-\cos x}{\sin x}\]
that identities is from what chapter ?
ew... I get my identity off of a cheat sheet from the front of my trig book... not likely to match your chapter even if I knew.
I actually have 3 identities for tan(x/2)
maybe i don't learn it yet . can you list it to me ? or maybe i just forgot
\[\tan(\frac{x}{2})=\frac{1-\cos x}{\sin x}=\frac{\sin x}{1+\cos x}=\pm \sqrt{\frac{1-\cos x}{1+\cos x}}\]
oh , okay thanks , then after we use the identities , what should we do ?
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find tan x=opp/adj\[=6\sqrt{6}/3=2\sqrt{6}\]
Then use your identity, finding the sin and cos from the triangle and inserting it into the right places in the identity.
\[\tan(x/2)=\frac{1-(\frac{3}{15})}{(\frac{6\sqrt{6}}{15})}\]
so we just leave the answer like that ?
No, you should simplify.
okay thank you so much . by the way how often you online here ? , so that I can ask you question :D
Not predictable, this is my first time in many months. Hartnn is my favorite go to guy. He is here a lot. He makes me look stupid. Look for him if I'm not here.
okay , but if i just can't find him , where can I find you ?
hmm.. not sure what to tell you. If I'm not on, I'm not on.
okay can we make it simple , which account do you usually use ?
I'm EulerGroupie. I log on through the MIT site.
don't worry i'm not a stalker , i'm just a very math lover that didn't know much about maths
erm do you have skype ? or y!m?
nope... my e-mail is Eulergroupie@comcast.net
I'm a community college math tutor that sometimes stays up late messing with this site.
okay , got it . oh well , i think that is all my question , just in case i need your help , i'll leave a message here
cool... good luck
thanks again , and sorry for my bad english usage
erm , are you still there ? i'm kinda stuck again
yeah
if the question is like this , how should i do it ? \[\csc ( 2 \sec ^{-1} 3x + \pi/2 )\]
reciprocal identity first \[=\frac{1}{\sin (2\sec ^{-1}(3x)+\pi/2)}\]then use the sum of sines identity on this denominator make the triangle from the inverse secant and use it to build the large fraction evaluate each sine and cosine using the triangle and reduce
okay thanks
You're welcome.
I don't know how to insert the value for sum of sines , the sines have 2 in front of it
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Oh my, that IS nasty. I wouldn't make the triangle until you resolve the reciprocal and then the half angle identity.
== , okay , I lost my way right now . how to solve the reciprocal identities ?
This one seems a bit extreme... I need a sec to find a way out.
sec=1/cos
take your time
set and angle variable equal to 2sec^-1(3x)\[\alpha=2\sec ^{-1}(3x)\]I must be missing something, this is getting terrible.
if we use my triangle it can be 2 teta right ?or not..
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