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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Can someone please help me solve these integrals? I've tried to solve them many different ways, but I just can't figure them out.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Power reduction

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What do you mean?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm going to have to remember my identities, aren't I?

OpenStudy (kirbykirby):

Yes trig identities are key here

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Darn. Alrighty, I definitely appreciate you guys pointing that out. I never would have realized. Does that work for the second integral too?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Try using a substitution first, \(u=\sin x\), \(du=\cos x~dx\), so that you get \[\int u\sqrt{1+u^2}~du\] How would you go about this one?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Note: The u-sub isn't actually necessary, you'd find that \(u=1+\sin^2x\) also gives you \(du=\cos x\sin x~dx\).

OpenStudy (kirbykirby):

If you want u could also try substituting \(u=\sin^2x+1\) and then \(du=2\sin x\cos x\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

^^ yup

OpenStudy (kirbykirby):

^yes hehe! :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wow. I even set the second one up right, but completely failed at something as easy as derivatives. Haha thanks! But I'm still lost on the first one O.o

OpenStudy (kirbykirby):

Try using \(\sec ^2x=\tan ^2 x+1\)

OpenStudy (kirbykirby):

like try using \(\sec^4x=\sec^2x*\sec^2x\) and substitute that identity into ONE of the \(\sec^2x\)

OpenStudy (kirbykirby):

then you can use \(u=\tan x\) so \( du=\sec^2x \)

OpenStudy (kirbykirby):

you should get some polynomial in terms of \(u\)'s which is easy to integrate :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I hate myself so much. Thank you SOOO much for your help!

OpenStudy (kirbykirby):

Yw :) But don't say that Integrals aren't always obvious! You really just have to practice them enough to start "seeing" patterns. You'll get more familiar with which techniques might be more useful the more you do them.

OpenStudy (kirbykirby):

They're not straightforward like derivatives ! In fact, some integrals cannot be computed by hand and can only be approximated by numerical methods

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You're really nice :) Thank you again for all of your help and being so understanding. I just get frustrated because I get so close to the answer and get stuck.

OpenStudy (kirbykirby):

Aw thank you :) And you're welcome. The trick is to really do enough of integrals to get used to them ;)

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