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OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Help with Application question

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Its Euler WARK!!!!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

^_^ Kupo the graph becomes steeper since 0.045 > 0.039, this would be horizontal compression. the second part can be answered logically (from real life experience) or by plugging in any value for v. the smaller d(v) = smaller breaking distance for given v

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

so That means it would be compressed if it is steeper if i am correct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Horizontally compressed I think anyway because its .0039v which stands for f(x)= (ax) which i believe it means horizontally

OpenStudy (anonymous):

actually since it is from 0.049 -> 0.039 it is vertical compression and not horizontal 0.039 is a fraction of 0.049

OpenStudy (anonymous):

my bad for saying horizontal earlier

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Dang it so close >.<

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i forgot which was which. i used the bottom of this page and i think it's vertical compression now http://www.regentsprep.org/regents/math/algtrig/ATP9/funclesson1.htm

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

I see, So about the 2nd part wouldn't it be less

OpenStudy (anonymous):

f(x) --> f(ax) : horizontal change f(x) --> af(x) : vertical change

OpenStudy (anonymous):

horizontal: a > 1 : compression 0 < a < 1 : stretch vertical: a > 1 : stretch 0 < a < 1 : compression

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

._. Wait so Its the opposite when its vertical compression

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Alright that makes sense

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Wark! So question, What would you do again to find the second part?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you can, for this particular question, use logic: newer tires are more efficient than worn out tires. new tires require less breaking distance. or you plug any value of v and see which has the smallest d(v) plugging 1 should work and tell you right away that 0.045 > 0.039 so the distance for d(v) = 0.045v^2 will always be more than for d(v) = 0.039v^2

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

So one more so I don't get this wrong its D right XD in simpler terms

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes D

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Thank you Moogle xD

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Do you have time for more?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes ^_^

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

:D WARK!!!!!

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Would it be 5 + sqrt of 29

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

+or -

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes it is

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

:D

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

WARK!!!!!!!!!!!

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

alright as we move on

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

-12, 1?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

B

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

so B?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yup

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just wondering. did you complete the square for the last 2 or deduced the right answer?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

both could be done without any work :P

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Yipeeeee

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Yes I got that one answered, Is that the one that I called for you this morning?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did you try this one? \[p(x) = ax^2 + bx + c\] zeros are obtained with quadratic formula: \[x = \frac{ -b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac} }{ 2a }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i don't know, i didn't see it

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

also this one would it D right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the site was laggy so i couldn't follow the link and i lost it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i could find it again though

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

xD yeah this morning it was a mess

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, D

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

YAY

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

x+6=25

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[a^2 + b^2 = c^2\]\[b = a + 6\]\[a^2 + (a+6)^2 = 25^2\] you need to expand and solve for a

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

actually x + 36 = 625

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

x= 589

OpenStudy (anonymous):

should i solve it or are you working on it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

brb 2 minutes

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

ehh i am confused now ._.

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

O WAIT YOU HAVE TO SQUARE IT

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes\[a^2 + (a+6)^2 = 25^2\]\[a^2 + (a^2 + 12a + 36) = 625\]\[2a^2 + 12a = 589\]

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Oh boy

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you're now looking at a quadratic

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you can solve for a

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Yes I believe I am

OpenStudy (anonymous):

would you like to save your game?

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

2a^2=-12a +589

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

a^2= -6a +294.5

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

o_o??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you can do that

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

i think I screw that up

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nope its fine

OpenStudy (anonymous):

use the quadratic equation or complete the square to solve for a

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

It seems complicated to do that way, and I don't know where to go from there :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

from\[2a^2 + 16a = 589\]you can re-arrange it to\[2a^2 + 16a - 589 = 0\]the solutions to the quadratic equation, the roots, are the values of a (or x usually) when the polynomial = 0 for\[p(x) = ax^2 + bx + c = 0\]\[x = \frac{ -b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac} }{ 2a }\] our case a = 2, b = 12, c = -589. solve for x (which is really a, but not the same a, eh)

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Sorry Openstudy is being weird again

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wow its 2a^2 + 12a = 589 my bad

OpenStudy (anonymous):

last sentence is still right though. only first 2 equations are wrong

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

that last part of the sentence o_O

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol :p

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

The a is not that a but another a o_o its A-ception

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol ya. i should have used capital letters for a b and c

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

let meh try to solve it then :p

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cool :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you'll always get 2 answers. sometimes only 1 makes sense based on context

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(2 answers because of plus minus sign. 1 for each)

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

12 + or - sqrt of 4568 / 4 o_o???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

[-12 (plus/minus) sqrt(4856)]/4

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

I forgot the negative *facepalm*

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and got a dyslexic square root :P

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

lol

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

-12 + 68= 56

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

so a =14

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

-12 - 68= -80

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

a= -20

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

so A

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

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