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OpenStudy (anonymous):

quick question when solving for a variable ..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[x^2 + y^2 = 4 \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's a circle

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay so ill be solving for y , but do i square root both sides to get x & y alone \[x + y = 2\] and then move x to the other side or do i move \[x^2\] to the other side and THEN square root both sides to get x & y alone ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you don't want to take the root of both sides

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do i make sense ? haha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but i need to leave y alone , i cant have it squared

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if it was (x+y)^2 = 4 then you would square root both sides but it's not like that you have to solve for x and y at the same time, which is actually pretty simple

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no i have to solve for y

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so then what is y = to?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats the thing , i have to get y alone

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@agent0smith

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do you get it alone? you should have learned this in algebra

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i know how to do it im just asking when should i take the square root of each side ? before moving x^2 to the other side or after ive moved it ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you tell me, that's algebra. don't forget about pemdas

OpenStudy (anonymous):

omg nvm .....................................

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

\[\large x^2 + y^2 = 4\]subtract x^2 from both sides first.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now you just gave her the answer... how did that help her

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i always subtract it first before taking the square root ?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Yep. I gave her the answer. You are quite helpful.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why would you subtract it first?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

You have to *isolate* y^2 before you can take a square root.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats all i needed to know , i know how to do the problem i just needed clarification ....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh ok thank you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you understand the reason why you have to subtract it first?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes because @agent0smith says so (-:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well then there you have it. happy homework

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

@hkim i understand what you're trying to do, but you're not doing it in the most helpful way here.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

happy day sir !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i just want others to learn to help themselves than rely on the help of others

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

That's reasonable to a point. If it were entirely true, why would teachers exist?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a teacher would teach a man to fish, not get a fish for him

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Look back through your posts in this thread and think about how helpful they are.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

as helpful as they were received it seems like

OpenStudy (anonymous):

same with yours, no?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Mine actually helped. I explained why she had to get y alone to take the sqrt.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i really hope she did understand the reason for that. if she did, then i'm glad you were able to help her more than i was able to

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

"you have to solve for x and y at the same time, which is actually pretty simple" "so then what is y = to?" "how do you get it alone? you should have learned this in algebra" "you tell me, that's algebra. don't forget about pemdas" Do these really look helpful when she kept asking you the same question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i never said my answers were more or less helpful. obviously yours were more helpful than mine so why do you deem it necessary to copy-pasta all posts i left previously?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Because of this "i just want others to learn to help themselves than rely on the help of others". If someone keeps asking you the same question, then they're asking for help, because they can't help themselves (yet).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the degree of helpfulness of one another's answers isn't my goal or focus. i just want the person that asked the question to truly understand what was done and why it was done that way. rather than memorization, learning to find answers is my focus. maybe you might think they can't help themselves, but maybe that's where the polarity between us comes into play

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

I understand what you mean, but, you kinda need to pay attention to the asker. I could tell you were frustrating her and not helping her.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Someone who's getting increasingly frustrated isn't going to learn how to find answers.

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