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i dont see it...
As a spring is heated, its spring constant decreases. Suppose the spring is heated so that the spring constat at time t is given by k(t)=6-t N/m. If the unforced spring-mass system has mass m=2kg and a damping constant of \(\gamma=1N-sec/m\), with initial conditions x(0)=3m and x'(0)=0m/sec, first wright the initial value problem (second degree homogenous ODE) problem which governs displacement x(t). Then use a series-solution method to find the first four non-zero terms n a power series expansion about t=0 for the displacement; i.e. find a series-solution to this problem and write the first four non-zero terms of that series.
This making any sense to you?
no not at all
first write* sorry typo.
amistre, please tell me you know how to do this.
do we have the diffyQ written? that might be the only issue id have with it at the moment
using a series for a solution is simple enough, but i dont think i could come up with the diffyQ to begin with :/
I am trying to figure it out. I have no clue why this problem was made so hard :/
hmm, we seem to have smartscores back for a moment .. time to do some mod work
It is unforced, so it will be something equal to zero...
Okay, I think I got this. The general form is: \(\Large{mu''(t)+\gamma u'(t)+ku(t)=F(t)}\) So I think it would make sense that the equation is, \(\Large{2u''(t)+u'(t)+(6-t)u(t)=0}\)
@amistre64 Do you think you could help me from here?
let \[u=\sum_0a_n~(6-x)^n\] \[u'=-\sum_1a_n~n(6-x)^{n-1}\] \[u''=\sum_2a_n~n(n-1)(6-x)^{n-2}\]
well, 6-t if you want to get picky lol
Okay, and what do you do from there?
\[{2u''(t)+u'(t)+(6-t)u(t)=0}\] plugging in we get \[{2\sum_2a_n~n(n-1)(6-t)^{n-2}-\sum_1a_n~n(6-t)^{n-1}+(6-t)\sum_0a_n~(6-t)^n=0}\] simplifying \[{\sum_22a_n~n(n-1)(6-t)^{n-2}+\sum_1-a_n~n(6-t)^{n-1}+\sum_0a_n~(6-t)^{n+1}=0}\] now what i usually do is get the exponents worked to lowest by adding or subtracting to an index
What are the numbers on the bottom of the sigmas? And is top value supposed to be infinity?
the bottom index value is the starting value of "n" and yes, to infinity \[{\sum_22a_n~n(n-1)(6-t)^{n-2}+\sum_{1+1}-a_{n-1}~(n-1)(6-t)^{n-1-1}\\ \hspace{5em}+\sum_{0+3}a_{n-3}~(6-t)^{n-3+1}=0}\] \[{\sum_22a_n~n(n-1)(6-t)^{n-2}+\sum_{2}-a_{n-1}~(n-1)(6-t)^{n-2}\\ \hspace{5em}+\sum_{3}a_{n-3}~(6-t)^{n-2}=0}\] now that we have all the same exponents, we can align the index values by pulling out the first few terms
the numbers might be tiny for you to see now that i think of it
right click, settings, zoom if need be
Why was it +3 on the last one?
think of it as shifting a function left or right. to shift f(n) to the right by 3 units; we subtract .. f(n-3) we do not want to change any values tho, so we need to "start" the index at +3 to account for the shift
okay, but what I mean, you made the other one so that it was two... why was that one three?
let f(n) = n+1 ; for n=0,1,2,3,4,... we want it to be n-2, f(n+3) = n-3+1
we are trying to align all the exponent parts so that they can be factored out
Ah, okay
since the lowest exponent part is n-2, we want to shift all the others to an exponent of n-2
Yep, I see that now :)
once we get all the n parts shifted; we need to consider making them all start at the same place so that we can group them into one summation: \[2a_2~2(2-1)(6-t)^{2-2}+{\sum_32a_n~n(n-1)(6-t)^{n-2}\\ -a_{2-1}~(2-1)(6-t)^{2-2}+\sum_{3}-a_{n-1}~(n-1)(6-t)^{n-2}\\ \hspace{10em}+\sum_{3}a_{n-3}~(6-t)^{n-2}=0}\] ^^ all lined up
Okay, I think I follow.
to clean it up some \[4a_2+{\sum_32a_n~n(n-1)(6-t)^{n-2}\\ -a_{1}+\sum_{3}-a_{n-1}~(n-1)(6-t)^{n-2}\\ \hspace{3em}+\sum_{3}a_{n-3}~(6-t)^{n-2}=0}\] \[4a_2-a_{n-1}+\sum_{3}~[2a_n~n(n-1)-a_{n-1}(n-1)+a_{n-3}]~(6-t)^{n-2}=0\]
second term is mistyped lol -a1
mistyped... what was it supposed to be?
-a1 .. i typed it as a{n-1} when trying to edit up the latex coding
the rest of this is doing some algebra to define an in terms of a{n-1} and a{n-3}
Ohhh, at the very bottom of the post. Okay. I am entirely incompetent in this. I hate it.
\[4a_2-a_{1}+\sum_{3}~[2a_n~n(n-1)-a_{n-1}(n-1)+a_{n-3}]~(6-t)^{n-2}=0\] the summation is equal to 0 when the coefficients are all zero \[2a_n~n(n-1)-a_{n-1}(n-1)+a_{n-3}=0\] work the algebra to solve for an \[2a_n~n(n-1)=a_{n-1}(n-1)-a_{n-3}\] \[a_n=\frac{a_{n-1}(n-1)-a_{n-3}}{2n(n-1)}~:~n\ge3\]
4a2 - a1 = 0 when a2 = a1/4, or when a2=a1=0
keep in mind that we are looking for the setup:\[y=\sum_0a_n(6-t)^n\]or written another way:\[y=a_0+a_1(6-t)+a_2(6-t)^2+a_3(6-t)^3+...\]
using the formula for an: \[a_n=\frac{a_{n-1}(n-1)-a_{n-3}}{2n(n-1)}~:~n\ge3\] lets start defining the coefficients \[a_0=a_0\] \[a_1=a_1\] \[a_2=\frac14a_2\] \[a_3=\frac{a_{3-1}(3-1)-a_{3-3}}{2(3)(3-1)}\] \[a_4=\frac{a_{4-1}(4-1)-a_{4-3}}{2(4)(4-1)}\] \[a_5=\frac{a_{5-1}(5-1)-a_{5-3}}{2(5)(5-1)}\] \[a_6=\frac{a_{6-1}(6-1)-a_{6-3}}{2(6)(6-1)}\] you will also find that we can substitute in the parts we need to define this in terms of 2 unknown constants a0 and a1
nother typo lol .... a2 = 1/4 a1 from before
Do we need to solve for those a_0 and a_1? or are these answers correct? And first 4 non-zero terms, are the first couple zero?
we are given initial conditions which will give us a way to define specific values with
a0 and a1 are the arbitrary constants that can be solved for with the initial conditions
ah, okay. I am still reading through this trying to make sense of it lol.
its just alot of work, but the work itself is pretty simple to do
I am not entirely sure how to solve with the initial conditions.... I am looking at this, and I don't even know where you would plug this crap in.
if we start to try to fill it in so that an is in terms of a0 and a1, for the sake of less typing, lets say a and b \[a_2=\frac{1}{4}b\] gonna have to work a3 alittle bit more by the formula \[a_3=\frac{2a_{2}-a_{0}}{2(3)(2)}\]\[a_3=\frac{1!~(\frac12b-a)}{2~3!}\] same with a4 \[a_4=\frac{a_{3}(3)-a_{1}}{2(4)(3)}\] \[a_4=\frac{2!~(3a_{3}-b)}{2~4!}\] \[a_4=\frac{2!~(3(\frac{(\frac12b-a)}{2~3!})-b)}{2~4!}\] and so on and so forth
and to clarify a=a0 b=a1
alot of work to try to code in ... but you would see that we get a fairly dependable pattern in terms of a and b .... with any luck and if that pattern comes up alot and is useful in solving other equations, they give it a name like beta, or legendre, or something to seperate it from the overall mishmash
yes .... a_0 and a_1 are rather difficult for me to keep trying to type up over and over again is all
okay... makes sense so far.
there are simpler diffy qs to start getting the basics of it downpat with ... but i have to focus on getting some classwork done in the next 30 minutes. post some thought you have and ill see if i can address them later
okay. Thanks so much!
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