Ask your own question, for FREE!
Mathematics 8 Online
OpenStudy (lena772):

Pre-calculus/Trig help

OpenStudy (lena772):

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

Y = 2x^3 + 4x^2 + -5x + 3 Points: (1,-2) Y = 2*1^3 + 4*-2^2 + (-5*1) + 3 Y = 2 + 16 + (-5) + 3 Y = 18 - 5 + 3 Y = 13 + 3 Y = 16 .... My guess on how you do it. Idk 100%

OpenStudy (lena772):

Lol i put the wrong attachment first XD

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

You changed the question =.= lol :/

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

Well I'm lost on that one.. that sign in the end, its pi? 3.1416 ? Normally used 3.14 On the previous.. am I right?

OpenStudy (lena772):

yes

OpenStudy (lena772):

@agent0smith @Hero

OpenStudy (lena772):

haha yip that's pi :D

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

If you want you can try and tag @math&ing001 <- smart :3

OpenStudy (jonnyvonny):

First, you set each individual trig function equal to zero, and get them alone, for, you know that if one of them is zero, then, since you're multiplying, they'll both be zero:\[\tan \theta -1 =0\rightarrow \tan \theta = 1\]\[\tan3* \theta = 0\] Tan=1 when cos/sin=1...which is when they're both the same value, which is only at the pi/4's. Since the one has to be positive, you must divide -/- or +/+. This happens at pi/4 and 5pi/4. Now, when tan=0; sin/cos=0, which happens when the numerator is 0, so 0/cos. Sin is zero at 0 and pi, and (2pi is not in the interval). Since the theta is being multiplied by 3, to counter act that, we divide the theta by 3: sin3*pi, now its sin3(pi/3)=sin(pi)=0. They both hold true, so we just added another point in which the result would be 0. Total: pi/4, 5pi/4, 0, pi, and pi/3. (I think you can say 2pi/3, but not too sure).

OpenStudy (lena772):

Oh my God thank you so Much @JonnyVonny

OpenStudy (lena772):

It can be 2pi/3, but can it be 3pi/2? @JonnyVonny

OpenStudy (lena772):

@hartnn

OpenStudy (jonnyvonny):

Well, 3*3=9, so that would be 9pi/2, which is when cos=0, taking it undefined.

OpenStudy (jonnyvonny):

making it*...therefore no lol

OpenStudy (lena772):

do you know how to find the general solution for these? @JonnyVonny

OpenStudy (jonnyvonny):

General solution for what? Sorry I'm late on typing; trying to rap >.>

OpenStudy (jonnyvonny):

Oh, in the question, 1 sec.

OpenStudy (jonnyvonny):

I think there are 2 general solutions in this, one for each in the parenthesis, which would be (pi+k*pi)/4 and the other one I'm not too sure about, want elaboration?

OpenStudy (lena772):

@ganeshie8

OpenStudy (lena772):

@ganeshie8 this one

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yu want the general solution ?

OpenStudy (lena772):

yes

OpenStudy (lena772):

and were the specific solutions johnny gave right?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\tan 3x= 0\) or \( \tan x = 1\) \(3x= \tan^{-1} 0\) or \( x = \tan^{-1}1\) \(3x= n\pi + 0 \) or \( x = n\pi + \frac{\pi}{4}\) \(x= \frac{n\pi}{3} \) or \( x = n\pi + \frac{\pi}{4}\) above both are general solutions.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes, they're absolutely correct.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

we can get the specific solutions form general solution very easily lets do it quick ?

OpenStudy (lena772):

yes

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

for the First general solution : \(\large x = \frac{n \pi}{3}\) specific solutions are : \(\large x = \frac{0* \pi}{3}, \frac{1* \pi}{3}, \frac{2* \pi}{3}, \frac{3* \pi}{3}, \frac{4* \pi}{3}, \frac{5* \pi}{3}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

simplify the fractions ok

OpenStudy (lena772):

0, pi/3, 2pi/3, pi,4pi/3, and 5pi/3

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes, similarly find specific solutions from second general solution also

OpenStudy (lena772):

x=npi+pi/4 x=1pi+pi/4 x=2pi/4

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

try again

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

pi + pi/4 \(\ne\) 2pi/4

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

For the second general solution : \(\large x = n\pi+\frac{\pi}{4}\) specific solutions are : \(\large x = 0*\pi + \frac{\pi}{4}, ~ 1*\pi + \frac{\pi}{4}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

simplify and append these solutions to ur first set :) easy ok

OpenStudy (lena772):

idk how to simplify 1*pi+pi/4 :/

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\huge \pi + \frac{\pi}{4}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

to add fraction, we need to have SAME number in the bottom ok

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so, multiply first term wid 4/4

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\huge \pi + \frac{\pi}{4}\) \(\huge \frac{4}{4} * \pi + \frac{\pi}{4}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

now that bottoms are same, u can add tops

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\huge \pi + \frac{\pi}{4}\) \(\huge \frac{4}{4} * \pi + \frac{\pi}{4}\) \(\huge \frac{4\pi + \pi}{4} \)

OpenStudy (lena772):

5pi/4 and for 0pi+pi/4 would it be pi/4?

OpenStudy (lena772):

and are there any other solutions @ganeshie8

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yup ! oly those. if u put n = 2, u wud get :- 2pi + pi/4 which is 2pi + something clearly greater than 2pi but we're asked to find specific solution oly within [0, 2pi) so we're done. oly two solutions :- pi/4 and 5pi/4

OpenStudy (lena772):

thank you!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

add them to the first set of solutions u got earlier

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

np :) so in total you're getting 8 specific solutions hmm

OpenStudy (lena772):

x=0,pi/3,2pi/3,pi,4pi/3,5pi/3,5pi/4 and pi/4

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

looks good :)

Can't find your answer? Make a FREE account and ask your own questions, OR help others and earn volunteer hours!

Join our real-time social learning platform and learn together with your friends!
Can't find your answer? Make a FREE account and ask your own questions, OR help others and earn volunteer hours!

Join our real-time social learning platform and learn together with your friends!