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OpenStudy (anonymous):

A limit problem.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

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myininaya (myininaya):

@mebs Is this you throwing in a fun question or you really asking how to do this?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am very serious got an exam on Monday buddy.

myininaya (myininaya):

Oh. I rationalize the numerator. There could be another way.

myininaya (myininaya):

That was a first step i did.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I tried that I get infinity * 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I took x3 t the roots so I had cube roots of (1+x2/x3) and (1-x2/x3) e knowing x2/x3 <<1, I took cube root as 1 + 1/3 (x2/x3) and 1 - 1/3 (x2/x3) subtracting gave me x[2 x2/3 x3] which goes to 2/3 as x goes to infinity.

myininaya (myininaya):

So you got something like this: \[u^\frac{1}{3}-v^\frac{1}{3}=\frac{(u^\frac{1}{3}-v^\frac{1}{3})(u^\frac{2}{3}+v^\frac{1}{3}u^\frac{1}{3}+v^\frac{2}{3})}{(u^\frac{2}{3}+v^\frac{1}{3}u^\frac{1}{3}+v^\frac{2}{3})} \]

myininaya (myininaya):

\[=\frac{u-v}{u^\frac{2}{3}+v^\frac{1}{3}u^\frac{1}{3}+v^\frac{2}{3}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't recognize it you may be right, I worked with the cube root of (1 + x2/x3) etc.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wow wait what was the factor rule you used for the first part... factoring an odd polynomial...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so you multiply by its reciprocal and factor why did you use u substitution its still x.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how did you do that that is like pretending that its (a)^1/3-(b)^1/3

myininaya (myininaya):

\[=\frac{(x^3+x^2)-(x^3-x^2)}{(x^3+x^2)^\frac{2}{3}+(x^3-x^2)^\frac{1}{3}(x^3+x^2)^\frac{1}{3}+(x^3-x^2)^\frac{2}{3}}\]

myininaya (myininaya):

I was just putting u and v to make it look prettier

myininaya (myininaya):

well one day I was like how do i rationalize a difference of cube roots and i kept putting terms inside a little factor bubble and multiplying and seeing what i was missing and then putting that in and kept doing it until when i multiplied everything zeroed out except the difference of cube roots i did this because i was trying to evaluate a limit and i know rationalizing is an important tactic in evaluating limits

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ahhh that's great brilliant .. Thanks a lot !

myininaya (myininaya):

however i wonder if there is an easier approach the way i mention will work but i had to do some more steps to get the answer

myininaya (myininaya):

@mebs i think i'm onto something else it might be prettier

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im still here

myininaya (myininaya):

Yeah that is the only way I can really think of. We could have factor out a x^(2/3) to start but that doesn't matter much. Or I can't make it matter much anyways. I'm saying the way I went out about you could have if you wanted.

myininaya (myininaya):

Now looking at the bottom the highest exponent looks like x^2

myininaya (myininaya):

So I divided both top and bottom by x^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok that makes sense

myininaya (myininaya):

like we have these terms in the denominator (x^3+x^2)^(2/3)=x^3(2/3)+...blah, (x^6-x^4)^(1/3)=x^2+blah, and (x^3-x^2)^(2/3)=x^2+blah if you see what I mean

myininaya (myininaya):

3(2/3)=2 6(1/3)=2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright I guess that these powers are annoying but if we do divide we would have to change it .. alright that works

myininaya (myininaya):

now you should see all three of your fractions in the denominator each go to one and your top should go to 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea it stays 2 at the bottom because of 2x^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the answer is 2!!

myininaya (myininaya):

no

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright still listening.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2/3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

could you do an example of applying that factoring thing you just did with like x^(1/2)-y(1/2) step by step?

myininaya (myininaya):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty} \frac{\frac{2x^2}{x^2}}{\frac{(x^3+x^2)^\frac{2}{3}}{x^2}+\frac{(x^6-x^4)^\frac{1}{3}}{x^2}+\frac{(x^3-x^2)^\frac{1}{3}}{x^2}}\]

myininaya (myininaya):

and yeah sure

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh I see its \[(1+\frac{1}{x}) + (1+\frac{1}{x})+ (1+\frac{1}{x})\]

myininaya (myininaya):

and wait do you mean rationalize a difference of square roots?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so I think the general formula you just showed is \[x^n-a^n = (x-a)(x^{n-1} + ax^{n-2} ....a^{n-1)}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea like pretend that we were doing that problem with some other variables a little more simpler ones that aren't fractions...

myininaya (myininaya):

and yeah i'm pretty sure there is a formula for what i was doing i bet i could find one by looking for patterns with fractional exponents

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lets pretend I was factoring an odd functional exponent like \[t^{1/3}-r^{1/3}= \text{step by step rationalie and factor please}\]

myininaya (myininaya):

Do you mean factor t-r with a difference of square roots, cube roots, 4th roots,...,nth roots

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I meant what you did just now.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

with that u^(1/3)-v^1/3

myininaya (myininaya):

well me said \[u-v=(u^\frac{1}{3}-v^\frac{1}{3})(u^\frac{2}{3}+u^\frac{1}{3}v^\frac{1}{3}+v^\frac{2}{3})\]

myininaya (myininaya):

i didn't mean to say me that sounded weird

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oHHHH I SEE IT OFMG yesss

OpenStudy (anonymous):

all you did was divide both sides by that large term.

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