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OpenStudy (anonymous):

PLs Help.......Medal..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (adrynicoleb):

I have no idea. Sorry.... @cambrige

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Data_LG2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks anyways

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@terenzreignz

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Orion1213

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Just sub in each of the four values and see if it satisfies the equation?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

went thru my mind...But I need the solution process!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@PixieDust1 @kawaiicat123

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ikram002p

OpenStudy (mathmale):

sarahusher's suggestion is the most straightforward, although I'd suppose it's possible to solve the given inequality for x. If we do substitute x = Pi/6, we get Abs(Sqrt(3) * Sqrt(3)/2 - 1/2), or Abs(3/2 - 1/2). Please judge for yourself whether x = Pi/6 is a solution or not.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'll give you a hint, only one of them satisfies it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Its an MCQ.I think I got that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah, i think that's a better way (^_^) i tried solving it but i got stuck.. http://sketchtoy.com/56878404 lol, sorry..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no substitutions...........Either graph or via formula

OpenStudy (anonymous):

good try @Data_LG2 appreciae it!!:)

OpenStudy (snowfire):

Cos(x) can only be anywhere from 1 to -1. Sin(x) has the same range. sqrt(3)cos(x) can only be from sqrt(3) to -sqrt(3), which is about 1.73 to -1.73.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yup

OpenStudy (anonymous):

substitution does give me A

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How come you can only use graph or formula?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not graph.........what I want is a method where I don't have to substitute all the options!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@experimentX @emilyhaddad @oksuz_ @ash2326

OpenStudy (snowfire):

So knowing that, now we need to find when the difference between sqrt(3)cos(x) and sin(x) is greater than 2. How did you get A as the answer?

OpenStudy (snowfire):

I got sqrt(3)cos(pi/6)-sin(pi/6)=1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(sorry you said graph above) umm I'm not using a formula would be particularly effective, as the interval of [0, 4pi] can be infinitely tested. If you are adamant on using a formula, I can't help. Sorry.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

A is incorrect

OpenStudy (snowfire):

And you can probably set up some calculus equation to solve for every x that makes this true.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no I did not I got A for <=2.....lol not >

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-_-

OpenStudy (anonymous):

As said, it's pointless working a formula for a multiple choice question that can take two minutes, so I'll leave you guys to it @Snowfire looks like she's got it!! :-)

OpenStudy (snowfire):

Oh no, I don't xD I just know what the formula will be based on, nothing else atm

OpenStudy (snowfire):

Similar to related rates problems

OpenStudy (anonymous):

divide and multiply the mod term by rt 2.... it'll become rt 2 | rt 3/rt2 cos -1/rt2 sin x| combine the whole term by using cos (A-B) or Sin (A-B) as sin pi/4 = 1/rt2 Rest is simple by mod

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cos (A+B)**

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you can use cos(x+y)=cosx cosy-sinx siny

OpenStudy (anonymous):

dividing both sides by 2, we'll have an obvious relationship with pi/6...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can u write the formula @divu.mkr @Orion1213

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you'll get x <= 11pi/6, take note that x ranging from 0 to 4pi

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I meant the method

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[\left|\frac 12 \sqrt3 (e^{-i x}+e^{i x})-\frac12 i (e^{-i x}-e^{i x})\right|\ge 2\] \[\left|\sqrt3 (e^{-i x}+e^{i x})- i (e^{-i x}-e^{i x})\right|\ge 4\] dunno how useful that would be tho

OpenStudy (mathmale):

For anyone interested in exploring this further: Start by assuming that the quantity to which the absolute value operator is applied is already positive or zero. Then the absolute value op can be omitted. This leaves us with Sqrt(3)*cos x - sin x (= to or greaterhan t) 2. This can be re-written as Sqrt(3) cos x (= to or greater than) 2 + sin x. Graph both Sqrt(3) cos x and 2 + sin(x) simultaneously on the same calculator screen, from 0 to 4Pi. You'll see that Sqrt(3)*cox x is never greater than 2+sin x. However, Sqrt(3)*cos x = 2 + sin x for (what appears to be) two different x values. It's possible to use the TRACE function on the calculator to determine the x-coordinate of the point (or points) of intersection. And so on.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\left|\sqrt{3}\cos x-\sin x\right|\ge2\]\[\left|\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\cos x-\frac{1}{2}\sin x\right|\le1\]\[\left|\cos(\frac{\pi}{6}+x)\right|\le1\]\[\left|\frac{\pi}{6}+x\right|\le\cos^{-1}(1)\]\[\left|\frac{\pi}{6}+x\right|\le2\pi\]\[\left|x\right|\le2\pi-\frac{\pi}{6}\]\[\left|x\right|\le\frac{11\pi}{6}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\left|x\right|\le-\frac{\pi}{6}\]

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Really, really cool approach, Orion! Congrats.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks... :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hey @Orion1213 how did u get <=pi/6??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and how did u change the inequality???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

remember when we do division or multiplication in inequality, the inequality revert in favor of the other...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and for pi/6, from the unit circle as well as identity cos(x+y)=cosy cosx - siny sinx... same as the format of the problem... cos y = sqrt(3)/2 sin y = 1/2 it comes out y=pi/6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in ur formula,why did u change the inequality??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sry.how cud u change ur inequality>??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i cross multiply 2 remember, that means i divide both sides by 2 so there will be a change in inequality...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u did not multiple with a -ve sign!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i only use -ge then -le sign

OpenStudy (anonymous):

inequality changes only when u divide or multiply with a -ve sign!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry i can't get what you mean by -ve sign, there are only two signs i have used and those are -le (for less than or equal to) and -ge (for greater than or equal to) signs...

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

-ve means negative +ve means positive

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh i see... thanks for letting me know... :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i found my mistake, i should have not change the inequality sign unless i multiplied or divide by -ve sign, i reviewed it... so the final inequality must be \[\left|x\right|\ge-\frac{\pi}{6}\]thanks to all, I've learned a lot. It is only now I observe THAT RULE. Thanks @cambrige.... :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ur Welcome...Thank U too...for the effort u put!!

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